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GVJIM![]() |
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Joined: January 2008 Posts: 58 Location: west | Hi, new here, and have read quite a few posts with interest. I saw this on the bay and wondered if you guys would share your opinions of the description of this one... personally I think it is a Celebrity but could be wrong... IS this USA made | ||
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Hi GVJIM - another Jim, huh? Welcome to the board. The 1111 Balladeer is most definitely US-made, a very nice guitar for its price, as the entry-level US Ovation line. You probably couldn't find a better built or better sounding guitar in its price range. | ||
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GVJIM![]() |
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Joined: January 2008 Posts: 58 Location: west | HI g8r, thanks for the reply. Glad to be here, I don't own an O yet but have been diligently looking for one... YOu are right the 1111 Balladeer is a great guitar. However, I don't think the guitar this seller is representing in his auction is a made in the USA 1111 Balladeer as stated. The guitar he has in auction does not have an ebany fretboard, nor does it have the standard bridge saddle. I suspect there is no serial number on the back of the headstock either. Also, aren't the inlays on the bridge to close together, and curiously the tag appears missing. I was hoping some of you more experienced Ovation enthusiasts would confirm my findings. Thanks, Jim | ||
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Beggin![]() |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 2241 Location: Simpsonville, SC | Welcome GVJIM! Why not contact the sellor for pics of serial # on the back of the headstock and a picture of the label on the inside bowl. Then you should know what he is representing. | ||
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150 Location: Orlando, FL | Email the seller and ask for a picture of the label inside the soundhole. And welcome aboard! | ||
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G8r![]() |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Originally posted by GVJIM: I'm pretty sure they stopped using ebony for the fretboard and went to rosewood on the Balladeers in the 90's, but someone here will certainly correct me if I'm wrong. Last month I picked up a '96-vintage 1617 Balladeer for a friend and it had a rosewood fretboard. The saddle is typical of the acoustic-only lines, which this is. The guitar he has in auction does not have an ebany fretboard, nor does it have the standard bridge saddle. The lack of a label is mildly troubling, but the definitive answer would be the serial number (stamped on the back of the headstock for that year's Balladeers). If the seller can't (or won't) provide that I'd steer clear. | ||
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Designzilla![]() |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150 Location: Orlando, FL | Opps! didn't read the description closely about no label. So yeah, what g8r said... | ||
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Joined: March 2007 Posts: 665 Location: Tychy, Poland | personally, i really dislike rosewood fingerboard on any guitar, and if it was up to me i'd look for older guitar with ebony fingerboard. | ||
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GVJIM![]() |
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Joined: January 2008 Posts: 58 Location: west | g8r - thanks for the help, pretty good advice and my thinking on this one too - I asked seller to provide pic of back of headstock , we'll see - I went to Ovation website, seller actually has a link, and the 1111 had ebony board - thanks for the info on acoustic-only bridge, I didn't know that - the guitar he has listed and in pics could be a USA made O but I feel certain it's not a 1111 Balladeer - at any rate there's an abundance of pretty good USA made Ovations for sale now - on the bay and elsewhere - I should be able to get a good one soon... :) | ||
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Gway![]() |
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Joined: April 2007 Posts: 318 Location: Slightly northwest of Trader Jim | Originally posted by GVJIM: [QB] Also, aren't the inlays on the bridge to close together, and curiously the tag appears missing. I think you maybe correct about the inlays, but you need the tag to be sure. :rolleyes: Oh yea, welcome aboard! :D | ||
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Trader Jim![]() |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307 Location: South of most, North of few | Sorry, just woke up... WELCOME!! | ||
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 2791 Location: Atlanta, GA. | Welcome GVJIM. I agree that it's a Celebrity. One piece neck, Rosewood fret board and the bridge pin locations. Probably a CC11 instead of 1111. Same as this one This is the main reason I don't like the Ovation logo on the heads of the newer Celebrity's. | ||
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GVJIM![]() |
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Joined: January 2008 Posts: 58 Location: west | thanks cholloway and thanks all for the welcoming :) | ||
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Jeff W.![]() |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | No skunk stripe--- big clue right there. | ||
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 1138 Location: CT | '96 1111 Balladeer? They didn't make them anymore then. It's a Celebrity, steer clear if you want a US O. | ||
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GVJIM![]() |
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Joined: January 2008 Posts: 58 Location: west | everyone has been very helpful - thank you I'm moving on to find a USA O | ||
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