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Location: South of most, North of few | It just amazes me how some of these people can live with themselves being as dishonest as that. That first one you got is a (pardon the abbreviation) POS, and you KNOW the guy knew it. Great you got the other one though. That one looks to be in nice shape from the pics. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | One more thing you may want to consider is having a guitar shop look it over and give you a written damage description. A professional opinion should go a long way as evidence. |
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Location: CA | He's a deceptive jerk. Keep on eBay about him and give him scathing bad feedback. |
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| g8r,
If that seller wants to maintain 100% feedback then he will have to 'put up or shut up' in order to keep you from exposing him to the ebay community. I would tell him exactly what you are going to do in advance, giving him fair warning. He's probably counting on you not challenging him. It will obvious from your photos and the seller's 'one' auction photo that he was being deceptive in his description. He's already lost the guitar AND the price of the sale.
Maybe he'll wake up and realize he ain't gonna win this one! |
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Location: Detroit Mi | Sergio5154 - I am Auchencrow: not a regular here, but I signed in just to tell you what an utter pig that Guscave is - both literally and figuratively. Anyone who would abuse an instrument that way should be incarcerated. He should be baned from eBay forever - and from the human race even! - BTW I am the same Auchencrow that bid against you for that guitar - I bid the same amount ($450) but just a little later, so you won and I lost. (I only hope you'll forgive me for losing!!!) . . . Anyway I am glad you could snatch that next 1619. I hope it is all you hoped it would be, and I hope everything works out for you with that slime ball liar too. |
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Location: Yakima, WA | Pathetic. Talk about no integrity.
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| Thanks for your continued support, guys. I'm waiting to hear from PayPal Dispute Resolution on this case (it's under their review process). There's no way I'm giving up on this one, and the seller will definitely get the worst feedback possible when this is all over.
The second 1619 arrived yesterday, and it's in very good shape (8 of 10). There's one small (about 3/4" long X 1/8" wide) piece of finish missing on the lower bass bout next to the binding right about where your arm rests when playing that looks like it's probably the result of a blow to the side. There's also a tiny piece of finish missing from the treble-side peghead wing, and a few minor finish blemishes. Frets show wear but still have life in them.
The seller specifically said he couldn't get the electronics to work, so I took it apart last night and found 2 wires had broken off, one from each jack. I'm about to go solder those back on right now, and I expect that'll fix the problem. Once I get her back together I'll take some pics and post a full report on a new thread. I'll wait until after the jam & send her to the spa for beautification. This one's gonna be my "never-get-rid-of" guitar. |
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| auchencrow - sorry man, I meant to say "Welcome to the Board!" in my last post. Thanks for the good wishes & stick around, this is a great group of people here. You still looking for a 1619-1? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Glad you got one you're happy with, g8r. Maybe you'll end up with two. |
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Location: Detroit Mi | g8r - Thank you. (I feel better now). Actually I just stumbled on a Folklore which was a real deal, and though it is a little spartan compared to a 1619, it is suitable for me. - So I won't be in the market for another guitar real soon - I'll just be looking and ogling any Ovations that I see on eBay, or here - and I will likely log in here again from time to time. . . Like you said , this is a nice e-community. Happy Holidays to all! |
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Location: Central Florida | Moved post to "Second 1619 Arrival" thread. |
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| PayPal determination: Item is Significantly Not As Described.
I guess they put the squeeze on the seller, because he has agreed to a full refund (incl. shipping) when I return the guitar.
Sometimes the system does work! :D |
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Location: South of most, North of few | WHOOO HOOO!! :D Glad to get an update on this one, and a positive one too! I was going to ask you about it, but I figured it would come out sooner or later. |
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Location: big island | in my best popeye voice: "well blow me down!!"
that's great news g8r. |
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| Good for you! Paypal called his bluff and he had to shut up. I bet this guy was sweatin' bullets that ebay would expose him... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | You mean you have to return the guitar "first" and then depend on this scumbag to refund your money and the shipping?
I would be doubly careful with this one! |
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| Originally posted by stephent28:
You mean you have to return the guitar "first" and then depend on this scumbag to refund your money and the shipping? Not quite. PayPal specifically states that they will credit my account for the full amount as soon as I provide them with a tracking number showing that I've shipped the guitar back to the address they provided. I'm assuming that they will then go after the seller if he doesn't put that money into his PayPAl account.
But then again, everybody knows what happens when you ASS-U-ME something :eek: |
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Location: Tennessee | Score one for PayPal. Neer had to go to them with a dispute, but it's nice to know they really do provide protection for the buyer. |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | ....good for ya g8r...chaulk one up for tha good guy... |
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1619 Arrived Today - Caveat Emptor!
