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Location: Long Island | Hello all,
Great forum you have here :)
I am the proud owner of 2 Ovation guitars and an Ovation Uke.
I am ready for a possible dream Ovation or Adamas.
The Adamas 1680 and the Elite 1718 are somewhat closest to what I would consider.Deep bowl and 1-3/4 nut width are not exactly ultimate but I've owned both before.
Also Musicians Friend has a picture of an Adamas 1581-5 with a picture that looks real close but the specs on their page and on the Adamas site don't match the 12 Fret non cutaway that is pictured on MF's page?
What I really want is a 12 fret,slothead, non cutaway Elite or Adamas with either a mid-depth bowl or a contour bowl and 1-11/16 nut width.
Is there a model that fits the above or close?
Does anybody have an approximate idea of what a Custom Shop Adamas or Elite model would cost?
Any help/advice/ideas would be greatly appreciated. |
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Location: enid, ok | Let me be the first to welcome you! I'm not one of the regulars, But I assure you, this is an awesome forum for information, among other things. I haven't a clue myself, being an electric player, but plenty of folks here do. You'll likely get more info than you want. Be prepared, my friend! Keep your wits about! |
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Location: Jet City | Welcome 12Fret. Dumb luck, 2 electric players in a row. I'm sure one of the "smart" guys will show up eventually.
What are the Os ya have already? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | You need to contact Al Pepiak at Lost Art Vintage Instruments. 856-933-0374
Be ready to be awed...
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Ditto...call Al! |
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Location: Vermont USA | Al is probably at the NAMM show, so we wont hear much from him till he gets back. But I'm sure Dave or Cliff and many more will be able to answer all of your questions. Also realize this most of us here are nuts.
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Welcome 12Fretter!
Are you looking for a new or used guitar? If you spend some time on this board and exercise patience, There is no doubt in my mind that you will end up with the exact guitar you want. There are a lot of people on this board with a lot of knowledge (I'm not considering myself in that group), and you would be suprised to find that some are even previous Kaman employees. TO sum it up ... Lots of good scoop! Beware though ... it can become addicting and you may end up with more instruments than you ever planned on.(If you're married, you may want to start preparing your spouse) |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | 1 3/4 nuts sound better.
welcome |
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Location: kansas | Originally posted by 12Fretter:
Hello all,
What I really want is a 12 fret,slothead, non cutaway Elite or Adamas with either a mid-depth bowl or a contour bowl and 1-11/16 nut width.
Is there a model that fits the above or close?
If can sort this out, there seems to be only 3 Adamas models that meet your criteria:
Model name Made In Strings Format Cutaway Bowl Style Frets to Body Headstock Output Comments
W681TA Adamas USA Steel 6 NO DEEP Elite 12 Slothead Acoustic cross-weave textured top
U-681 Adamas USA Steel 6 NO DEEP Center Hole 12 Slothead A/E textured top
U-681TA Adamas USA Steel 6 NO DEEP Elite 12 Slothead Acoustic |
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| Not quite correct Keven.
The U681t has a 1 3/4" neck and is not a center hole guitar.
Only one or two of the 5 U681t 12 strings are acoustic only. the others are A/E. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | U681T is acoustic/electric
U681TA is acoustic only (that's what the "A" means"
W681TA actually refers to two different models, with the same model number. A few W681TA are 12 fret widenecks like the U681. Others are 14 fret std neck export models similar to 1681 Adamas II. Confusing, I know.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | The normal nut width on a 12 fretter might be hard to come by. I suspect most 12 fretters were made for fingerstyle guitarists and have a wider neck. The only A or O 12 fretters I can think of also had deep bowls. |
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Location: Long Island | Wow,
Thank you all for replying and the warm welcome.
Nut width is not deal breaker, my 97 Ovation is normal nut width and my favorite guitar. I also have a Larrivee with 1-3/4 nut that I play regurarly also. But my 97 Ovation is the sweetest and most comfortable neck ever to me.
Does anybody else switch between nut widths regurarly?
Also to be clear, A or A/E isn't an issue really. I would take either.
The 1680 and U681T are almost perfect but I really do prefer a slightly shallower or contoured bowl. I've put together enough for the 1680 standard model and am very curious what upcharges would run for custom orders.
Thanks again to all who've posted...I hope to hear more feedback. |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Welcome 12Fretter. What part of Long Island are you from? Call Al Pepiak www.lostartvintage.com. He's
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I switch nutwidths regularly and it causes some difficulty, but I miss frets all the time when I'm playing the same guitar over and over, so I can't really blame it on the change in widths. It seems easier for some reason when I switch from wider to narrow, rather than the other way around.
As far as getting a custom guitar, get in touch with Al when he gets back from NAMM. He's done as much as anyone and knows who to deal with and how to get the job done. The Adamas Custom Shop was sort of advertised for about one year. As of January 1, Al might be the only one who knows or can find out how to get a custom order done. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | I have to change between a 1 5/8" , a 1 11/16", a 1 3/4" and a 1 7/8" for just the few guitars I have. It's a little messy at first (as most of my playing is anyway) but after a few minutes, it's easy too adapt. |
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Location: Long Island | Thanks again everybody.
I sent Al an email. I was also real curious about those Koa 12frets he had or has also.
I have a Koa Ovation Uke I'm going to posta pics of in another thread.
I don't know how the special orders work. But a mid depth, 12 fret, slothead non-cutaway Elite would be really cool also I think. I also really dig the look of the walnut epaulets on the 1680. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Let's see, I change between 1 5/8", 1 11/16", 1 7/8" and 2"
Not really a problem, you jsut adapt. |
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Location: Long Island | I hear you on that.
I switch from soprano-concert-tenor Ukes also.
I know, I mentioned already that I'm not worrying about the nut width anymore. Sometimes my OCD kicks in when it come to guitars ;-)
I've got about 3g to spend. I have a feeling a custom order Adamas may go well over that. Maybe a custom order Elite for around that? Or I may just go with either the standard 1680 or the Koa if Al has one left. Either way I think I'll end up with a very sweet guitar that I can have for life :) |
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by 12Fretter:
Either way I think I'll end up with a very sweet guitar that I can have for life :) Amen to that! |
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