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| Hello everyone!
Looking for a Classic, found this 1763 on https://reverb.com/item/99591-ovation-classic-1995-natural
Is it with the deep bowl? Anyone has this model? What are your impressions? |
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Location: SoCal | Deep bowl, great guitar, really expensive. They usually go for about half that price in the US. But for Greece, it may be right. I don't know.
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Location: Burbank | I have a 1663 I am thinking about selling. Thought I was gonna keep it but I just got a 1674 that I like better. The 1663 is a deep bowl and really nice to play. It has the stereo pre-amp but I never used it. I am gonna plug it in and try it out before I list. 1663's are kinda rare and dont come out that often. Only made for 2 years. I will check it and list soon with a price if you are interested. |
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Location: SoCal | What's a 1674?
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Location: Burbank | Its a cutaway country artist. Just like a 1624 only cutaway. |
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Location: SoCal | Shoulda known. Used to have one. Why do you prefer it over the deep bowl?
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Location: Texas | "Just like a 1624 only cutaway." I thought that the 1674 had a shallow bowl and the 1624 was the artist bowl, which was a mid bowl? IMO, Ovation really never achieved a true classical sound, acoustically, with their guitars. The depth of the nylon response decreased as the bowl size was reduced. Therefore, acoustically, the closest you get to a traditional classical sound is with the deep bowl. To me, it still lacks the resonance of the classical woodies. Personally, I can't see how a shallow bowl classical would come close to fulfilling the traditional classical depth and resonance one would want to hear with a nylon. All of that said, I enjoy playing my 6773 and would still love to score a 68 shiny Classic.
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Location: SoCal | To really get what you want out of a country artist, you gotta plug it in.... |
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Location: Burbank | I have playing my 1663 lately trying to get used to the feel of the nylon strings. I have been trying to learn a song on it and hace been frustrated then I get the 1674 and it plays like butter, all my frustration gone. I originally wanted the 1663 because I wanted a deep bowl sound but the 1674 with its artist bowl sounds just as good to my ears and is easier to play. |
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| Well, a friend's friend has an 1763 and I tested this morning... I have to say that its a SUPERB, UNIQUE instrument... it has GREAT, GREAT, GREAT sound! Powerfull in the whole range because of its deep bowl and a very very easy to play neck... what could I say? I'll try to conviece him to sell it to me!!! |
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Location: Burbank | I posted the 1663 for sale in the for sale section, let me know if you are interested. |
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Location: Indiana | immoody - 2014-06-10 9:32 PM
To really get what you want out of a country artist, you gotta plug it in....
Exactly. Ovation classics shine for live performance. |
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| MG - 2014-06-12 10:15 AM
I posted the 1663 for sale in the for sale section, let me know if you are interested.
Thank you for your interset but I'm going to buy friend's guitar!!!! :-)
P.S. why cant I enter to the "for sale" topic? |
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Location: seattle, wa | the deep bowl on a nylon string Ovation body makes for a full, loud and powerful nylon sound. After playing other guitars for years and missing my 1113-4, I am back to collecting and play the Ovation classicals. There is not a more comfortable neck out there IMO. I just sold my 1763, only because it liked to lay a little flat with a strap due to the button placement by the neck...knitpicking, for sure, it was a beautiful guitar.
I play my deep bowls with some other guys and one of them has a county artist, mid bowl. Mine are way, way louder. I love the country artist model too but I prefer the 2" nut. As quick and comfortable as my 1116 and 1113 necks are, I do think the 1124/1624 neck is even faster. |
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| Well, having on my own the 1763, and in comparison with my 6773, I have to say that the difference in the sound is huge! I love my mid-bowl Artist (think is the most sophisticated model of Ovation - after Adamas), but the -unplugged- sound of the 1763 is something unbelievable.... Thank you all! |
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Location: Pueblo West, CO | MG - 2014-06-10 9:14 PM
I have playing my 1663 lately trying to get used to the feel of the nylon strings. I have been trying to learn a song on it and have been frustrated then I get the 1674 and it plays like butter, all my frustration gone.
It sounds like the the 1663 needs a set up done to it so it will play easier.
Nylon strings are no guarantee of an easy-to-play guitar if they're too high off the fretboard.
My 1624 had been owned by a professional musician who played it for 20 years, yet it had never been set up and the strings at the nut were still at the factory height. I did a set up and it played like butter afterward. |
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Location: Texas | Dan is on the money. Nylons should take little to no effort to play, especially on an Ovation. How many shims are sitting underneath the saddle? All things being equal, your 1663 should play as nicely as the 1674. The 1663 is a nice classical. |
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Location: Pueblo West, CO | Setting the action involves the following steps:
First, the height of the strings above the 12th fret is set by adding/removing shims at the bridge.
Then, the height of the strings at the nut are set. If they're too high, as they usually are when the guitar comes from the factory, then the grooves must be deepened to lower the strings. How high or low depends on the players preference.
Lastly, the truss rod is adjusted to set the relief, which is the amount of bow in the neck. Too much relief will cause intonation problems when fretting the strings at the higher positions. Not enough relief will cause the strings to buzz/rattle.
How high the action is set depends on the player's style. Players with a stronger attack will usually require higher action to keep the strings from striking the frets. Players with a softer attack can usually use a lower action.
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Location: seattle, wa | Dan's right...set up properly, I doubt if you could tell which one you were playing without looking, other than the satin finished neck on the 1763...identical scale, nut size...a great pair to have. Unplugged, they will be a lot louder than any mid bowl. |
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Location: Burbank | Good idea guys. I am gonna look into it and see what there is. I think there is nothing under the saddle so there may no lowering possible. If I adjust and it is as nice as the CA I may wind up keeping both and that not good. I mean its good but ya'know... |
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Location: SoCal | I had a 1763. Loved the tone, but the action up the neck was high and the bridge was down as far as it could go. Evidently, there's no neck reset (bowl bend) on the guitars with that bowl. Sold it and miss the deep bowl sound. Someday I'll get another.
On a side note, I really hope John Budny opens an independent repair shop. I think he could stay busy. I suspect prices would go up, but it would be worth it. |
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