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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-01 12:39 PM (#51956)
Subject: Ebony buttons?



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Just for fun, I thought I'd put some ebony buttons on the LX.

Any suggestions on where to get 'em? I don't want to end up with the wrong style.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-01 12:53 PM (#51957 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?


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Stewmac have ebony buttons for Schaller M6 machines. I'm not sure if they are compatible with Ping tuners currently used on some Ovation models.

If someone has examples of Ovations with Schallers and Ping, any chance you could take off a Schaller button and see if it fits on the Ping shaft. I'd like to know myself, then I can offer my custom-made buttons for Ping tuners as well as Schaller and Gotoh.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-03-01 2:55 PM (#51958 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?



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I have/had Schaller ebony buttons on three guitars with Ping tuners. They all were around 2001-2005, so i think they would fit. But they sit very tight on the Pings.

Kurt

Paul, I can check tomorrow if your buttons fit on Pings as well and will report tomorrow in this thread.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-01 4:33 PM (#51959 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?



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Pings vs Schaller, how do I tell? Anyone have pics of each?
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-01 4:42 PM (#51960 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?



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Here's what I have. (Image stolen from ebay auction)

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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-01 5:28 PM (#51961 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?


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They're Ping.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-01 5:29 PM (#51962 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?


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Originally posted by Koenig Kurt:


Paul, I can check tomorrow if your buttons fit on Pings as well and will report tomorrow in this thread.
That's great Kurt, Thanks.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-01 6:40 PM (#51963 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?



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OK, so am I reading correctly? The Stewmac buttons should work on Pings?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-01 8:08 PM (#51964 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?


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Looks like they may, Kurt will confirm.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-03-02 10:15 AM (#51965 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?



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Okay, checked it on different Ping tuners:

I have several Ping guitars and tuners here, this is what i found out:

Ping has changed the shaft size on the tuners in the last three-four years.

My Custom Elite is from 2005/6 (the Ovation page doesn't list the serial number, only says older than 2004), the Pings on it have the Schaller style shaft. This means, the Schaller buttons fit, but not perfectly. On some tuners they sit more tight than on others, which doesn't speak for the accuracy in keeping tolerances at the Ping factory.

The Koa/Contour Bowl Legend have Pings with the new style shafts, which are shorter and smaller. The Schaller buttons have some play (about 2 mm). They are usable, but I wouldn't accept that kind of play.

So, if your LX is newer than three years, I would check with the factory if they could get you some Ping ebonys.

Hope this helps,
Kurt

Paul, PM sent.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-02 1:05 PM (#51966 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?



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Well great. Leave it to me to buy a guitar in transition.

I paid for it on 2/12/05. Exactly 3 years ago. so... crap.

My serial is 584176, past the info on this site. so.... crap.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-02 1:12 PM (#51967 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?



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i guess i could just spend the $30 and see what happens.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-03-02 1:21 PM (#51968 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?



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Originally posted by Damon67:
My serial is 584176, past the info on this site. so.... crap.
Sounds good. My CE is 584831. There the buttons fitted okay.

Kurt
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-02 1:31 PM (#51969 - in reply to #51956)
Subject: Re: Ebony buttons?



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Saweet! Thanks Kurt.
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