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muzza
Posted 2012-08-21 6:12 PM (#458070)
Subject: Bridge query



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Why is it that ALL electric guitars, cheap and expensive, have adjustable bridges and nearly all acoustic guitars, cheap and expensive, have fixed bridges?

 

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Darkbar
Posted 2012-08-21 6:40 PM (#458071 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query



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Electric guitars have magnetic pickups
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Grinna
Posted 2012-08-21 6:43 PM (#458072 - in reply to #458071)
Subject: Re: Bridge query


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Presumably the fixed bridge transmits vibrations from the strings through to the soundboard and body of the acoustic guitar better than an adjustable bridge would. The efficient transmission of sound through the bridge isn't an issue with electric guitars because the pickup detects the string vibration.

Just a guess though.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-08-21 7:58 PM (#458075 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query



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My Danelectro DC59 does not have an adjustable bridge.
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Damon67
Posted 2012-08-21 11:39 PM (#458080 - in reply to #458075)
Subject: Re: Bridge query



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stonebobbo - 2012-08-21 5:58 PM My Danelectro DC59 does not have an adjustable bridge.

Nor does my Doubleneck Mosrite

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muzza
Posted 2012-08-22 12:39 AM (#458083 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query



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OK, so not ALL electric guitars have adjustable bridges.

But my point is, why do they 'generally' need adjustable bridges on electrics but not on acoustics?
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Gemm
Posted 2012-08-22 9:03 AM (#458090 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query



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I suppose one of the reasons is the intonation needs to be spot-on (therefore adjustable) on electrics as they are played more often high on the neck?
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SOBeach
Posted 2012-08-22 10:40 AM (#458094 - in reply to #458083)
Subject: Re: Bridge query


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muzza - 2012-08-22 1:39 AM ... my point is, why do they 'generally' need adjustable bridges on electrics but not on acoustics?

interesting question (imho)

one of them "things that make ya go hmmm..."

 

So far from what I've read, seems it isn't that they don't "need" 'em, but that they adversely affect the acoustic sound.

Apparently it has been tried in the past (Tune-o-matic bridge) but reviewers claim that it "killed the tone".  (?)


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ProfessorBB
Posted 2012-08-22 11:10 AM (#458095 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query



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Two of my electric archtops, both jazz models, do not have adjustable bridges other than to raise or lower the bridge as a unit. I've never really focused on the question since I don't typically have issues with intonation and, therefore, any need to make adjustments at the bridge. I think in over 50 years of playing, I've had to adjust for intonation only twice, both on used guitars just after purchase. It seems that this is one area where the manufacturers have it well sorted out.
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Waskel
Posted 2012-08-22 12:44 PM (#458100 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query



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If you could have an adjustable bridge on an acoustic (that didn't adversely affect the tone), wouldn't you want one?


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MarkF786
Posted 2012-08-22 3:04 PM (#458105 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query


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I often wish acoustic guitars had adjustable bridges. I'm very thorough in getting the intonation well adjusted on all my electrics. I use the 5th-17th fret method to adjust the intonation and I use a strobe tuner for accuracy. I've rarely encountered a new or used guitar that doesn't benefit from having it's intonation adjusted.

With acoustic guitars, I just "take what I get" since adjusting intonation by shaping the nut is a real pain in the arse. Compensated nuts works pretty well unless you use strings different than what is expected; for example, when tuning my guitar in NST, the intonation on the .059" string tuned to C is very bad on most acoustics.


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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2012-08-22 4:31 PM (#458112 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query


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The RMC pickup system used by Godin on it's Multiac guitars is fully adjustable. Each string, up/down, fore/aft. It's available separately by it's designer, Richard McClish at www.rmcpickup.com and can be retrofitted on any acoustic bridge with a standard 1/8 inch slot. It's a great sounding system as well.
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noah
Posted 2012-08-22 5:18 PM (#458114 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query



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Jonmark, I have an early Multiac Nylon. The six saddle/elements are installed in a straight slot. The newer Multiacs have a compensated arrangement, but since each saddle/element is in a slot, how is fore/aft adjustment accomplished?
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noah
Posted 2012-08-22 5:29 PM (#458115 - in reply to #458095)
Subject: Re: Bridge query



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boltonb - 2012-08-22 9:10 AM Two of my electric archtops, both jazz models, do not have adjustable bridges other than to raise or lower the bridge as a unit.

Brad, My archtops have moveable bridges, just sitting on the top held in place by the downward force of the strings. The saddles are compensated and the bridges have height adjusters on each side. At string-change time, all the strings come off, as does the bridge, and the whole guitar gets a spa treatment. I reset the location of the bridge by installing/intonating the E strings.

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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2012-08-22 6:03 PM (#458119 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query


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Hi Bruce. I never needed to adjust my Multiac... was considering putting the RMC pickup on a CV-68. I was told by a guitar tech that the upper part of the saddle could move fore and aft above the slot. Unfortunately, since you asked, I can't find anything to support that claim and was likely passing on bad information. I'll keep looking but mean time, ignore me.
Hope all is well with you these days.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2012-08-23 2:43 PM (#458151 - in reply to #458070)
Subject: Re: Bridge query


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Got a reply from Mr. McClish and I was wrong about the fore/aft adjustment of the RMC PU saddles. Sorry for the mis-information.
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