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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | stellarjim - 2012-05-14 12:33 PM OK.....so we are saying this Viper is an Acoustic sounding, chambered body electric. But....does it have the super low action and low string tension of an electric? You can set the action wherever you prefer. I keep mine at about medium height. String tension is based on string size, and I run 12-53 acoustic lights on the EA models, same as I do on the SSBs. The fretboard and neck feel like a typical Ovation/Adamas acoustic, but handling and holding it in a standing position with a strap is much more akin to an electric. | ||
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | noah - 2012-05-13 11:06 PM EA68, 63, 58, B68... tapping around on their tops and probing around inside, all of mine seem to be significantly carved out. Maybe not as much as Ovation's ad copy, but far from solid. Here are two photos of an EA Viper in the production stage. I snapped these during Rick Hall's explanation of the EA68 build process during one of the factory tours. The extent of the body routing is very similar to the ad copy photo. | ||
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 1249 Location: Texas | Officer Obie just arrived with his 8x10 color glossy photos...which I have to say are very cool. Prof, had they routed out the back yet? If you consider that aspect, then it is almost completely chambered. Crow is usually in season, most of the year, for me. Edited by jay 2012-05-14 1:55 PM | ||
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 888 Location: Louisville, OH 44641 | OK....I'm convinced these are rather cool guitars. A 24 fret acoustic?...very nice. I'm going to watch this auction closely. Anyone know the street price on the new Yngwie Vipers recently shown on the Ovation web site? The retail price is something like $4700!!!...ouch. | ||
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | amosmoses - 2012-05-13 2:47 PM I play a Chet CE and unplugged or plugged, they both sound the same. And the Gibson does not have the carve outs on the upper bout. You can tell the weight difference. I own a Gibson Chet Atkins SST, too, and I agree with you on the weight. My EA6 Vipers weight 6 pounds 13 ounces, the EA12 Viper weighs 7 pounds 4 ounces (probably less body cavity routing to provide more internal structural support for the bigger bridge), while the SST weighs about 7 pounds 9-1/2 ounces. I don't know if the SST is chambered or not, but if so, probably not to the extent of the EA6 models. The SST also has wonderful sustain, maybe even more than the EA6. Add some heavy delay to the signal and these chambered models work well for rockabilly, with a heavy acoustic tone. If you want a lighter, snappier, electric tone, go with a Tele. | ||
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673 Location: SoCal | Instead of sound chambers, the SST's body has a 10" disk of balsa wood inside. | ||
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 1609 Location: Colorado | I am biased - but I like them more when they are finished - and I really like this one....http://timashley.tripod.com/pix/viper%20gallery/GreenGut/full_front.jpg long before Yngwie.... | ||
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Joined: April 2010 Posts: 823 Location: sitting at my computer | amosmoses - 2012-05-14 2:53 PM Crow is usually in season...
LOL - BTDT I've found that spicy barbeque sauce or a lemon-garlic marinate helps. | ||
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Joined: August 2002 Location: Everett, Wa | Now that this unit is heading my way (thanks to whoever stopped bidding when they hit my max of $601.99) I was wondering about strings. I saw where one person mentions using light acoustic strings. Anyone else have any suggestions or pro/con reccomendations? Will only be used in a private setting. No performance related issues would pertain to string choices. I use a Fender acousta-sonic pro amplifier. Anyone used this kind of guitar in this or another type of amp? | ||
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 4535 Location: Flahdaw | Wow...I would LOVE to play around with this guitar for a week or two. If you send it to me I will install your new strings and test them out. | ||
jay |
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 1249 Location: Texas | I actually went out to Youtube to see if I could find a McBride concert that the guitar was in and couldn't. Doesn't mean a thing, other than it would have been cool. Congrats on your new addition. My last EA63 played like silk. I will be interested to hear your evaluation. Edited by jay 2012-05-18 10:55 AM | ||
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I use the same strings on my EA Vipers as I do on the SSBs: 12-53s, either EJ16s or 1818s. | ||
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | I've tried a lot of different strings and it's simply a matter of your own taste. Standard acoustic lights seem to work best, but since the EA-68 plays and feels like an electric, I've found that 10-46 can give you that same string feel that you'd get on your electric guitar (remember, these are 16 frets clear so they do play kinda "slinky"). Regarding the amp, I've played it through a number of different amps ... I generally go direct to the PA most times, but I also have a GB Shen 60. Your Fender should be just fine. I do find that I like to warm up the sound of it a bit, usually with chorus and a little reverb or delay depending. I also find it's very fun to play through regular electric guitar amps for a change of pace. | ||
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Joined: August 2002 Location: Everett, Wa | Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. I will take all of your suggestions under consideration and use them as an excuse to buy more stuff. Bob, I have yet to sneak it in past SWMBO. I can't even think about sending it out for evaluations yet. Your offer is very much appreciated however. | ||
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Joined: October 2009 Posts: 133 Location: Ohio | Just, tell her if she doesn't like it you'll buy 2 more | ||
stellarjim |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 888 Location: Louisville, OH 44641 | Does the blue (with heavy wood grain) Viper EA 68 currently on Ebay belong to anyone here? | ||
jay |
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 1249 Location: Texas | I assume it is Patch's. | ||
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Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4226 Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Hi Jim, Here's a link to the ad HERE. If you want it, give me a call. I'll PM you with my phone number. As it happens, I am going to New Hartford today to pick up a repair. The timing would be absolutely awesome! | ||
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Patrick's asking price would be a darn good deal for a Tamo Ash Viper. The typical production models were finished with spruce tops in natural or gloss black, but a limited number had the blue/green Tamo Ash or Vintage Sycamore (orange burst) flame maple tops. There's a few customs out there as well. I paid $1400 for my Tamo Ash Viper four or five years ago and thought I was getting a bargain. | ||
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 888 Location: Louisville, OH 44641 | Sooo...is Tamo a specific type of Ash wood or is Tamo an Ovation Customer that wanted a special run? | ||
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 1249 Location: Texas | Hey Prof... Do you feel they used the Tamo for the look? (Personally...I loved that orange burst)....Since the guitar really isn't an acoustic, would the type of wood really play into the way the guitar sounds? | ||
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Tamo ash is a wildly grained exotic wood from Japan, not necessarily rare, but reportedly very expensive. I have no idea why it was selected, but my guess would certainly be for its exotic look. Ash is often used for solid bodies, but I haven't heard it referenced as a particularly good tonewood for acoustic guitar tops such as spruce or cedar. I have all three EA versions and personally can't tell any difference in sound between the three, at least not that would be attributable to the type of wood used on its top. Set-up and string selection make a bigger difference. | ||
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