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gerald
Posted 2008-04-06 5:24 AM (#46375)
Subject: ovation hard shell case question


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hi folks - i have an old adamas I and recently bought an old brown case for it. the case has a little deorientation of the foam which form the roundback contour. it is like a little bubble about 3mm high (it moves down if i press with the finger on it but comes up again when no pressure). when the guitar is not in the case, the latches close extremely easy. if the guitar is in the case the distance between the alu frame ist about 5mm. the latch close the very easily, but i pull the cover down. is that normal or does this cause a pressure on the top?




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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-04-06 6:56 AM (#46376 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question
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I have three cases that close the same way. After checking closely I believe it's more of a hinge alignment issue. I've noticed no damages to the gits.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-04-06 7:14 AM (#46377 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question



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The case on my Adamas 11 did something similar.
I just poked a very small hole through the lining where the bubble was, squirted a small amount of glue through the hole, placed a piece of paper over the hole so not to glue the guitar to the lining, put the guitar back in closed it up and left it overnight.
No more problem.
Just check the lid, if there is excess pressure on the top there will be an imprint in the lining.
AJ
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-04-06 7:31 AM (#46378 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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Uh...I may be wrong on this, but that doesn't look to me like the original lining material in the case. Whoever redid it, probably just put this liner material over the old material, which would make the case fit tighter, no? For that guitar, I would find a nice 9158 case. I just sold one to Music Mike, but Mr. Ovation has one for sale also I believe.
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-06 7:55 AM (#46379 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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:-)) i have the case from music mike
i think the lining is original, i inspected it carefully and there is no sign from other materials beneath. also i just looks original.
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-06 8:15 AM (#46380 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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if anybody has a brown case for this adamas for sale (2 knober) pls let me know. i just bought this case but i would like to have no worry about the guitar.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-04-06 8:19 AM (#46381 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question



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Like I said, if there is no significant impression on the lid lining after it has been closed it will be fine
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Beggin
Posted 2008-04-06 11:21 AM (#46382 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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gerald, for what it's worth, and if I remember correctly, that is not the original lining in the case. When Music bought the guitar, the previous owner stated that his/her significant other had relined the case. I am sure he will know.

Good luck in your search!
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-06 11:32 AM (#46383 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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ok - anyone who has an original brown case for 2 knobs for sale : PLS SELL IT TO ME ;-)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-04-06 12:55 PM (#46384 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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I've got one that you wouldn't want. All the lining is worn till it's flat and the outer shell has a couple bubbles. It came with my 83 Collector's, which is a shallow bowl and it's too loose. I'm probably going to give it to a friend for his 1537.
Gerald, you could probably buy a hundred old brown cases and 99 of them will fit like yours or worse. They should put a little pressure on the top. Otherwise the guitar will slop around in the case like my 83 does. That's much worse. There's way more pressure pulling the other way on the top from the strings.
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-06 1:04 PM (#46385 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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mark thanks for your post, you are right. thks
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-04-06 8:22 PM (#46386 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question



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On the subject of Brown Cases...
I have one, and I would like to put my 1718 in it.
How (or what is the best way) to make a cut-out for the knob of the OP24 Pre-amp.
I tried to just push it down with my fingers, but that didn't work.
Before I start cutting on stuff, I'd like some advice. :confused:

Thanx
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-04-06 8:56 PM (#46387 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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OMA, don't cut it. I have done this on another one and it's very simple. Just take a small hammer and beat the area you want to clear the knobs. The backing foam will give and make an indentation there. I know this sounds primitive, but believe me, it works fine!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-04-06 9:17 PM (#46388 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question



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Thank You Kindly TJ!

I have pushed the foam in for a space for an OP-24+ but I guess I wasn't as strong as I thought when I tried for the OP24.

I will do that this evening.

And I sure am glad I asked before I broke-out the Exact-O knife! :eek:
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-04-06 11:10 PM (#46389 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question



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Once again... Thanx TJ.
But I am a wimp... So I didn't take the creative plunge with the Hammer!
I just discovered that my 1115-HB actually fits comfortably in the classic brown case.
So the 1718 can go into the black case.
The Pacemaker deserves the classy case anyway.
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brainslag
Posted 2008-04-07 10:17 AM (#46390 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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Isn't the Adamas a bit fatter than the wood-topped deep bowl due to the top ring? I know the cases are the same, but is there a different amount of padding in the 2 cases?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-04-07 2:35 PM (#46391 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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Just contact Al and buy a new case. With a guitar like that, don't mess around with "trying" to make something work.....
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-04-07 9:17 PM (#46392 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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Ok, so I'm slow to find this thread...Gerald, glad to see the case got there in one piece...I have no idea where the bumps in the case bottom came fron (photo of inside case)...they were not there when it was shipped or when the 1685-8 was in it...Here is what I have found: Original Fanclub posting

jamrcat wrote:
The case was recovered (on the inside) by my wife but the inner flap is not connected though there. Also I bought a new locking latch to go on the outside, but it needs to be riveted on. I don't have a rivet gun but will provide the part and key.
This is as we discussed...I have no idea what may have happened since it left here but the inside of the case was smooth as a baby's butt...his wife did a very nice job recovering the case...I only sold it because I had a used 8158 sitting around...BTW, Gerald, your Adamas I is beautiful! It looks stunning with this color liner!

All in all, not bad for a $50 case...the new latch was in the case pocket!

Here's another pic he sent to me before I bought the guitar:


I reinstalled the pocket lid when it arrived: nothing a few staples from my staple gun would not fix!
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lanaki
Posted 2008-04-07 11:30 PM (#46393 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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gerald, your adamas is absolutely gorgeous! if i had that guitar, i'd reward it with at least a 9158 but preferably one of the new carbon cases.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-04-08 12:14 AM (#46394 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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I'd leave it out all the time. The only time I use a case is to take the guitar somewhere. I'm running out of room to store all the cases.
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-08 2:35 AM (#46395 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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mike - i did not say anything against our deal with the case. the guitar was shipped with that case and arrived without any damage. so that was already the step i needed. i just noticed those 2 bubbles inside. you can see it even on the photo provided by you. have look. again, no disucssion on our deal.

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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-04-09 12:50 AM (#46396 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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No problem Gerald; I just never noticed it...for sure the case has seen some difficult days...glad it protected the guitar on the way overseas...if you look regularly at EBay, you can usually find someone selling a brown case...were you able to find someone to fix the latch? The replacement and new key were in the case pocket.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-04-09 5:09 AM (#46397 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I'd leave it out all the time. The only time I use a case is to take the guitar somewhere. I'm running out of room to store all the cases.
Ditto on that one Mark! My wall is full, and so is the closet.
Gerald, buy a 9158 case. I agree with the others, that guitar is worth at least that.
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-09 12:36 PM (#46398 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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mike, i have a friend who work with metal, i asked him if he could rivet the latch. the problem is that the aluminium frame is bent upwards, therefore the frame of the case and the lid are not connected when closed. that was also the reason why the latch broke, obviously the previous owner of your guitar did not recognize that and tried to close it with the latch, ending up with braking the latch. so the frame has to be brought to correct position otherwise it makes no sense to install the new latch, because it would break again. so actually i don´t know if i make all the action to get that case correct. the guitar is in my home and i do not take it outside, but i need a case because i have two small kids. i want a good old brown case, original. maybe someone hear me. mike don t worry. i needed the case for the shipping process and it was good for that.
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fran4001
Posted 2008-04-09 9:32 PM (#46399 - in reply to #46375)
Subject: Re: ovation hard shell case question


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Geez, one of my cases is bent exactly like that in the same spot. I tried all kinds of McGyver tricks on it to straighten it, and no-go... Any tips?
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