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Location: Nashville TN. | Dont like the contour bowl
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Losov sez:
I dislike having to defend my choice to the boutique guitar crowd.
But it's a simple defense: It works for me. Not really a problem, but my 'associates' will always have nasty things to say about my choice in guitars. But I might add that Nobody sez bad things when the Ovation is present!
I have also had people comment that they are too Loud! (unplugged) Uh, that's cuz it has a Bowl. :p |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | - Needing a dummy plug to activate the VIP tuner.
- My only other complaint has been the mis-information out about Ovation guitars in general. While I and many others appreciate the true Connecticut Yankee Ingenuity of the instruments, it does not make for fun Advertising and Marketing.
While it's great for us that know that when you see an Artist playing an Ovation, they are playing it out of choice, not because they got a free guitar, cause they didn't, they paid for it.... Most artists playing other guitars get their guitars for free, so most people think that's what everyone does.
I guess like others, the perception bothers me a bit, but it's not so much what people say, it's that often it has been people whom I respect that are just mis-informed.
If you think the wood guitar crowd is tuff, try riding up to a Harley rally with the "Other" American Motorcycle. Of course the most common thing I hear on that front, is while many die-hard Harley riders acknowledge that the Victory's are superior in almost every way, they will proudly end the conversation with "but it's not a Harley." Can't argue with that..
Bottom line.. I'd be happy if I didn't have to use the dummy plug to tune. :) |
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Location: big island | nevah heard of a victory motorcycle til now...think i'll google 'em. |
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Location: SoCal | Miles, how do Harley riders feel about Indian motorcycles? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | They were here first, weren't they? |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
1) I don't have enough of them.
4) See number 1. Now someone's speaking my language! :cool: |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by dweezil:
I'll go one further, the horrid VIP image sounds. I'll disagree here, A 50% VIP mix seems to really improve the 08C through the church PA. It sounds more "acoustic". |
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| K-bar necks, I like the old vintage truss rod models and the LX models, but the K-Bars are just too top heavy and in some cases produce too much of a V contour on the neck.
just my .02 tho...
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| Had mine since 1975 - no complaints so far.
If I was to buy another it would probably be an old one in good condition - I'd like to try a 1960s shiny bowl to see if I like that so some day I'll start looking around for one. |
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| Originally posted by Palm Bay Glenn:
K-bar necks, I like the old vintage truss rod models and the LX models, but the K-Bars are just too top heavy and in some cases produce too much of a V contour on the neck.
just my .02 tho...
Glenn I'm with you on the pronounced V shape of the neck. Is it only in certain models--or, even, certain production runs of models--that the neck is V-shaped? (I've owned two 1778Ts, and it seemed that the neck of the second one I owned was more uncomfortable than the one I had previously. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | No JUMBO .. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think asking for a "bitch list" of what we/I don't like is a bit negative. Let me rephrase the question as "What are some positive changes that I would like to see Ovation impliment" ...
1. Improved quality control. Too much shoddy workmanship gets out the door to be considered a world class quality builder. I have posted numerous specific examples in the past. 'Nuf said.
2. Expand the product line into differing sized bodies. All Ovations with the exception of the parlor and a few one-offs are the same size. basically it's an OM sized guitar. Offer a dreadnaught, jumbo and 000 size.
3. Sell the guitars with no pre-amp, just an empty can with a dummy cover. Make the pre-amp optional and allow the buyer to purchase the exact one he wants - iDea, VIP, OPPro, etc.
4. Focus less on glitz and fancy colors, concentrate on quality and acoustic tone first and foremost.
5. Improve the appointments on higher end models. Better cases, bone nuts, quality tuners, etc. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Miles, how do Harley riders feel about Indian motorcycles? My experience is that Indian is in a class by itself. They were the first successful motorcycle manufacturer in the USA, and at one time the largest in the world. Regardless of their quality, style or success and failure... they proved it could be done, and an original Indian in the bike world is like an Original slothead in the Ovation world.
I have similar experience with Moto Guzzi and I think they are the parallel along with Victory in many ways to what Ovation was and still tries to be. Rather than taking the Harley route of building essentially the same thing for years and years they are constantly pushing the envelope and on the cutting edge of technology and innovation. Much like Ovation's "Q", Victory built the "Core" this year, which is a motorcycle that will likely never get put into production. It is an experimental platform, something to get both engineers and consumers thinking about possibilities.
And before anyone thinks I'm slamming Harley I'm not. I think of Harley much like the Les Paul or the Stratocaster. There are plenty of guitars that are built much better than a Les Paul or a Strat. There are copies that are built better and sound better than a Les Paul or a Strat... but no matter what.. they are not a Les Paul or a Strat. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
2. Expand the product line into differing sized bodies. All Ovations with the exception of the parlor and a few one-offs are the same size. basically it's an OM sized guitar. Offer a dreadnaught, jumbo and 000 size.
4. Focus less on glitz and fancy colors, concentrate on quality and acoustic tone first and foremost.
5. Improve the appointments on higher end models. Better cases, bone nuts, quality tuners, etc. .. and I thought I was ALONE in this cruel world .. Dave my man , any time U come to Cph. Dk , and I mean .. ANY TIME .. !! :)
Vic
.. no bashing .. just mere improvements .. |
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Location: London, UK | I don't like the way guitar stores over here have basically abandoned them except as novelty items. |
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| Originally posted by sypolog:
I don't like the way guitar stores over here have basically abandoned them except as novelty items. Sounds like some guitar shops here too.
The kicker for me was when I went to a shop listed on the Ovation site and not only did they not have an Ovation to try out, the salesman completely trashed Ovations in hopes that I would buy a Taylor!
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Location: Brisbane Australia | How sad it this??
Taylor wines are really very good quality wines here.
I was in my wine store Sunday night and they had Taylor wines on special.
I couldn't even bring myself to buy some!!!
Bloody hell!!!
I must have it bad.
And another thing, I don't like the freaking shipping costs to OZ
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| Originally posted by AussieJames:
How sad it this??
Taylor wines are really very good quality wines here.
I was in my wine store Sunday night and they had Taylor wines on special.
I couldn't even bring myself to buy some!!!
Bloody hell!!!
I must have it bad.
And another thing, I don't like the freaking shipping costs to OZ
AJ You'd pretty much have to drink Taylor wines in order to enjoy a low end Taylor guitar! :D
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by AussieJames:
How sad it this??
Taylor wines are really very good quality wines here.
I was in my wine store Sunday night and they had Taylor wines on special.
I couldn't even bring myself to buy some!!!
AJ Never mind AJ, I'll help you drink the consolation Grange that you bought. |
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Location: Right now? | 1) I don't have enough of them.
Me either, Alison, and congrats again on your new Adamas! (Beal, will you marry me?) Although I haven't 'known' you very long, I already know that if anyone deserves to own one, it would be you. I'm happy to read that you had an opportunity to cuddle up to her these past few days. I'm gonna go over and check out the new NING photos you've posted. I love my "O's"! That beauty Patch sold me and the '09C continue to vie for my attention, and the others are presently getting quite jealous!
(P.S. Just kidding Beal; you couldn't PAY me to get married ... EVER again). |
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Location: Upper Left USA | From the repair/BFLG side of things - Epoxy bound neck pockets! No way to reset.
As far as sound and energy transferrance their great though! |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Willa,
Now you need to learn to play a certain Marilyn McCoo song and present it at the next gathering.
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Location: Right now? | Now you need to learn to play a certain Marilyn McCoo song and present it at the next gathering. Yeah, you're right, Woody; I'll work on that, lol. |
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