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BFLG Advice - Repositioning Butt-end Strap-button

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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-08-29 3:43 AM (#400746)
Subject: BFLG Advice - Repositioning Butt-end Strap-button



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Hey! That title is almost poetic.

Okay... I have purchased a passive undersaddle acoustic 'thinline' pick-up.
It comes with an end-pin jack.
I am considering putting it in my 1111-CG.
(I wish I had found this before I put the OP-11 in the Trekker!)
I was considering putting the jack/button a bit lower on the body to help to keep the bowl from 'rolling' up towards my face.
I am looking for opinions before I drill any holes anywhere.
(I don't have the pick-up yet anyway)

So has anyone tried this before? Moving the strap-button?
If I do this, the original strap button will still be in the same spot.
I may remove the button, but the 'mollie' will still be there should I decide to swap back.
But I will be drilling a hole, so I will be kind commited...
Once I drill the hole, that jack will be there... Or at least the hole will be there.
Also, If I were to put the end-pin jack in the normal spot, I would have to enlarge the hole and the mollie would never work again.
(I'm sooo confused! :confused: )

"Good Idea?"
"Bad Idea?"
"Aw hell, Arthur! Just go for it, and if it screws-up we will All know better next time?"

[Do passive undersaddle pick-ups suck, and did I just wasted my money?]
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Losov
Posted 2009-08-29 4:26 AM (#400747 - in reply to #400746)
Subject: Re: BFLG Advice - Repositioning Butt-end Strap-button


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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:


[Do passive undersaddle pick-ups suck, and did I just wasted my money?]
Yes they do, but it just means you'll have to spend more money to get an outboard pre-amp.
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Mitzdawg
Posted 2009-08-29 9:23 AM (#400748 - in reply to #400746)
Subject: Re: BFLG Advice - Repositioning Butt-end Strap-button
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Move it fearlessly. If you want to go back it's easy to fix a hole - cover it with painter's masking tape from the outside, then fill the hole with 20m two part epoxy from the inside. Let it set, remove the tape. The sticky side of the tape gives an almost perfect texture to the patch and with a little black paint it disappears.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-29 10:27 AM (#400749 - in reply to #400746)
Subject: Re: BFLG Advice - Repositioning Butt-end Strap-button
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Hey! That title is almost...
... deviant (NTTIAWWT...)!


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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-08-29 2:22 PM (#400750 - in reply to #400746)
Subject: Re: BFLG Advice - Repositioning Butt-end Strap-button



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(NTTIAWWT...)!
Okay Iffy... I'm lost! What does that mean?

Also... As to Passive ust pickups, My old CC57 worked just fine without any battery in the preamp? None of my electric guitars have a preamp. So, anyone with any relevant information about passive preamps, Please Share!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-29 2:49 PM (#400751 - in reply to #400746)
Subject: Re: BFLG Advice - Repositioning Butt-end Strap-button
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Not That There Is Anything Wrong With That...

It's a PC CYA statement! It's been around here in one form or another for a while... :cool:
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Losov
Posted 2009-08-29 2:53 PM (#400752 - in reply to #400746)
Subject: Re: BFLG Advice - Repositioning Butt-end Strap-button


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There used to be a lot written on the subject and I suppose one could find some articles on the web.

The short version, however, is that passive piezo pickups put out ultra high resistance which translates into an extremely harsh and brittle sound in the amp or PA that you can't simply eq out (I know because I've tried).

The signal needs to be buffered, or converted to a level that the amplifier can look at and deal with, and this is done via the pre-amp. Not a huge dollar investment but the improvement to a warmer more natural sound is worth a million.

Your electric guitar pickups, BTW, are not piezo transducers - different animal. As to your CC57, I have no idea what is in that, can't address it. But hey, after you do the install plug it in as is. If you're happy with the sound, you're golden. If not - we'll be here.
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