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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2010-02-08 11:46 AM (#380364 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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The reason I endorse Dave's advice is that *I used to work with him at a really great guitar factory* and I know for certain that he has LOTS of experience with this.
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-02-08 12:25 PM (#380365 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated



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Very true.
I'm just thinkin' that it might take a guy with Dave's experience to do it that way.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2010-02-08 3:25 PM (#380366 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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Another good reason to send it back to the factory.
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TRboy
Posted 2010-02-08 8:21 PM (#380367 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated



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If you decide to do it yourself....buy your deep throat bridge clamps from Grizzly.com ....I bought 3 (including freight) for $12.73 ea. (Stew-mac get $24.95 ea. before freight)

I drilled and tapped the bottoms of each one for attaching different cauls...I also painted them to dress up the shop some! ;)

I recently reglued a bridge on an old (early '70's) Epiphone guitar.


I sanded the bridge smooth and used Original Titebond (recomended by a lot of luthiers...Including Frank Ford ~ www.frets.com)
I also added two more screws to the original one! :D That bridge ain't goin' nowheres....

You can see more pics of the bridge fix here at my .ning page
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-02-08 8:45 PM (#380368 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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Nice!
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TRboy
Posted 2010-02-09 12:13 AM (#380369 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated



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I've just added more pics with comments to my bridge fix album showing the whole process....

Please take (another) look if you'd like.

Thanks
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2ifbyC
Posted 2010-02-09 8:15 AM (#380370 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated
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Outstanding pictorial!!!

How 'bout a pic of the adhesive container and applicator?
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TRboy
Posted 2010-02-09 1:33 PM (#380371 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated



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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Outstanding pictorial!!!

How 'bout a pic of the adhesive container and applicator?


The above pic is the adhesive & container....And I guess I would be the applicator? (the guitar & bridge would be the applicatee? :rolleyes: :D )

Sorry I didn't take a picture of actually applying the glue because I'm usually in a hurried panic at glue-up time....no time to take pics!

I applied a generous amount to both the bridge and guitar....(a lot more than was originally on the bridge from the factory!)
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Scottpro1969
Posted 2010-02-09 6:16 PM (#380372 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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TRboy,

Thanks for that!! I was considering the StewMac clamps! I think I'm probably going to end up doing the fix myself. I'm not scared...lol.
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cholloway
Posted 2010-02-09 6:33 PM (#380373 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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Nice job TR.

I applied a generous amount to both the bridge and guitar....(a lot more than was originally on the bridge from the factory!)
They were pretty skimpy with the original glue up, weren't they!
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TRboy
Posted 2010-02-09 11:46 PM (#380374 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated



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Originally posted by Scottpro1969:
TRboy,

Thanks for that!! I was considering the StewMac clamps! I think I'm probably going to end up doing the fix myself. I'm not scared...lol.
Yeah! Have No Fear!.... :D

Re-reading your original post I like to suggest a few things.
1)Lose the Gorilla glue
2)Use bolts instead of screws
3)Think through every step before committing
4)Have Fun!

Grizzly also has Luthier supplies

Correction: I said I used 4mm pearl dots ~ I actually used 6.35mm dots (1/4") I drilled the holes 4mm deep!

Post us some pics and good luck!
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TRboy
Posted 2010-02-09 11:50 PM (#380375 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated



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Originally posted by cholloway:
....They were pretty skimpy with the original glue up, weren't they!
Yep! Looks like they just ran a bead down the middle and clamped it up!
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Resonant Woody
Posted 2010-02-10 12:31 PM (#380376 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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I have never fixed a bridge before, so as always, I always turn to several places for advice on changes to my guitars.

1. My local luthier
2. This (and other) guitar discussion boards
3. Online websites (Stew-Mac might have advice as well as tools to do the job)

and, finally, and always...
3. Consult a reference book

Have you looked at Dan Erlewine's Guitar Player's Repair Guide? I just bought a new copy (3rd Edition) from Amazon for just under $20. I find lots of good info in there.
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Scottpro1969
Posted 2010-09-08 1:43 PM (#380377 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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Hey everyone,

I never got around to fixing the bridge problem. I'd like to send this to someone that would like to buy it and fix it up properly. I don't have the time, or skill to fix it.

I got this guitar in a trade and am not sure what it's worth. I know the posting guidelines state that a price must be posted so...

It includes a Road Runner hard shell case that fits it perfectly..perfect condition. A forum member has stated that these were specifically made for Guitar Center because the serial number has a GC in front of it.

Other than the bridge being separated the guitar is in perfect condition.

I can't find much about this model on the web but other Ovation Special's seem to sell for $650.

Let's say $300 shipped anywhere in continental USA. PayPal is fine. I'll include the new set of Elixir Nanoweb strings that I had just installed before the bridge let go.

Check this thread, sounds like an easy fix. I have excellent feedback on both Ebay and TalkBass. I can easily provide references for anyone.

If anyone wants additional pictures from what are included in this thread please let me know.

Scott
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Scottpro1969
Posted 2010-09-08 2:04 PM (#380378 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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Shoot, how do you delete a post??? I posted this guitar for sale in the wrong place. Moderators, I apologize. I just posted it in the For Sale section.
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Scottpro1969
Posted 2010-09-17 1:21 AM (#380379 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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Well, I've had a change of heart. I'm going to do the repair after all. I ordered the clamps from Grizzly's tonight and will be contemplating how to go about this until they arrive.

I'm scared to drill holes into the bridge. It's such a thin piece of wood I'm afraid it will crack but TRboy's pictorial has me wanting to do it that way.

Thanks for all of the help and support here guys!
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sycamore
Posted 2010-09-17 5:12 AM (#380380 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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Stories like these are so scary! Somehow seems worse when it just happens, at least if a guitar gets dropped and breaks or sat on, you can put it down to carelessness.

'Touch wood' as we say around here.
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Scottpro1969
Posted 2010-09-22 2:25 AM (#380381 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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Well I got the clamps today and decided to use plain old Elmer's carpenters glue. I put a liberal amount of glue to the bottom of the bridge and the body, clamped it and wiped away the excess as best I could. I will be drilling and installing bolts to both sides of the bridge for extra support. I'm hoping this works!





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Scottpro1969
Posted 2010-09-22 2:45 AM (#380382 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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I just love working on guitars and learning the in's and out's of them. Luthier work is fascinating to me. Bass is my main instrument but there is nothing more satisfying than doing a set-up or repair of your own guitar (to me). It makes the guitar "yours."

So I'll keep everyone informed how this turns out. I'm expecting it will be fine. Again, thank you for all of your advise and help. It's been immeasurable!
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Scottpro1969
Posted 2010-10-01 12:06 AM (#380383 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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Just an update. It's been over a week and the guitar is perfect. The bridge is not going ANYWHERE. I'm so glad I kept her and decided to do the fix myself. This guitar is a keeper!
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Scottpro1969
Posted 2010-10-01 12:09 AM (#380384 - in reply to #380339)
Subject: Re: Balladeer bridge separated


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I just want to thank everyone for all of their encouragement and ideas again. This place is invaluable. Now I'm wanting a 12 string.

I owned a Melissa Etheridge edition Adamas about 5 years ago and kick myself for letting that go. That was the most amazing sounding guitar I've ever played.
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