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Folkestone
Posted 2010-10-05 8:15 AM (#363450)
Subject: Adamas 1681 Value?


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HiEveryone:

Does anyone have a recent Blue Book value on a 1986 Adamas 1681 (non-cutaway)in Excellent condition?

Thanks,
Jeff
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bvince
Posted 2010-10-05 8:27 AM (#363451 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?



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I don't know about any blue book value, but I've been seeing them go in the range of $800-900 lately. The Blue Book is pretty-much worthless in today's economy, and most people are keeping a tight grip on any money they have. With that in mind, I wouldn't get my hopes up on getting a good price selling anything right now. A lot of folks here are dealing with that problem by considering trades instead. I have a nice assault rifle I am probably going to sell or trade off to get what I want. (:
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Folkestone
Posted 2010-10-06 8:07 AM (#363452 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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Vince:

Thanks for the info. Does anyone know the the current Blue Book value?

Thanks,
Jeff
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-10-06 8:56 AM (#363453 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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I don't know that there IS a blue book value and if there were, it would be different in Canada than the U.S.

We kinda pull back from giving price estimates here. Why don't you watch ebay or search completed auctions to see what they've been going for. Watch Craigs List as well.

Even if there were a "blue book" value (and there might be but I've not seen it), as Vince said, in this economy it wouldn't mean much. Determining market value makes more sense.

Why are you asking? If people here know more then they might be able to give you a better answer off the board.....
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G8r
Posted 2010-10-06 9:18 AM (#363454 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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Are you asking for insurance purposes, or to assure yourself you're not overpaying one you're currently contemplating buying, or as a pawnshop? Each of those reasons has a wildly different answer. As Moody says, we try to avoid being the Price Police.

Try here , FWIW given the reasons stated above. But again, as Moody states you'll get a much better assessment of current value by searching eBay for recently completed auctions.
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bvince
Posted 2010-10-06 9:28 AM (#363455 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?



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I have purchased the Acoustoc Guitar Bluebooks on and off about every fifth year, but they tend to leave out so many models, it hasn't panned out as a worthy investment for the price of the book. I know there IS an on-line Blue Book, but there is a fee to use it, and i am unwilling to spend money on something like that. Good luck in finding an "accurate" value/price.
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bvince
Posted 2010-10-06 9:34 AM (#363456 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?



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... In regard to "Insurance Value", Since I have replacement cost insurance on my home and contents, I was going to supply a list to the factory of what I have and ask them to give me a price to have each one of them rebuilt. My agent told me that there is a limit on collections and musical instruments, so they suggested that I insure it as a "collection". That way everything/anything is covered for loss, even when I take them with me, when something is stolen or broken or what ever.
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FlySig
Posted 2010-10-06 10:54 AM (#363457 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?



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bvince, have you looked into an instrument policy with a specialty insurer? For about $175 a year, +-, you get a policy that covers up to about $19k. You can add more if you need to. The deductible is quite small.

These policies cover everything, whereas homeowners insurance probably does not. For example, damage to the instrument while outside of your home. Even cables and other accessories are covered. About the only exclusion is theft from an unlocked vehicle.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2010-10-06 2:40 PM (#363458 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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I'm still not getting it. Replacement cost is based on the value at the time of the loss. I don't think it will pay to repair something that can be replaced cheaper. How do you know what damage you are going to sustain? Smoke might just involve cleaning, water damage could be total or partial, theft would be total replacement.
I need to check again, but last I checked my homeowner's covered the replacement cost of all my guitars. I have a few limited editions now that might not be replaceable, though.
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FlySig
Posted 2010-10-06 3:02 PM (#363459 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?



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Our homeowners policy covers replacement cost if an instrument is stolen from the house or totally destroyed by fire or earthquake or tree falling onto the music room roof and crushing everything. Our policy does not cover partial loss due to damage, say someone snaps the headstock off. I believe it does not cover theft outside of the home. It also does not cover "professional use", which could be important for people who earn any money at all, even just a few $ playing for tips.

Our homeowner's policy has a pretty big deductible, too. So the first guitar stolen from the house is not truly covered.

Some companies offer a pretty decent musical instrument rider on the homeowner's policy from what I've seen on various forums.
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Avatar4550
Posted 2010-10-06 3:35 PM (#363460 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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I think he may be referring to this...

http://www.usedprice.com/items/guitars-musical-instruments/

Sometimes referred to as the 'bluebook value', they have ballpark prices on practically everything (including Ovation guitars), but you have to be a member to access the data...

Anyone here a member?
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stephent28
Posted 2010-10-06 3:47 PM (#363461 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?



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I used to be a member of the "bluebook" site but soon realized that even as a "guideline" the prices they showed were so out of touch with reality (about 80% of the time) that it just wasn't worth the effort to pay for their books are services more than once.
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Patsbro
Posted 2010-10-06 4:35 PM (#363462 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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For what it is worth, the 9th edition of the "Blue Book of Acoustic Guitars" has the 1681 at:

100% -------- $1650
Excellent --- $1150-1300
Average ----- $750-875

Last MSRP was $2399

Note: The current book is in it's 11th edition.

Patsbro
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-10-06 5:56 PM (#363463 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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Those look like decent numbers....
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2010-10-06 7:09 PM (#363464 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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Mine would literally be the last guitar I would ever sell. I'd be that homeless guy living under a bridge with an Adamas.
Best of luck Jeff.
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Patsbro
Posted 2010-10-06 8:32 PM (#363465 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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Originally posted by Patsbro:
For what it is worth, the 9th edition of the "Blue Book of Acoustic Guitars" has the 1681 at:

100% -------- $1650
Excellent --- $1150-1300
Average ----- $750-875

Last MSRP was $2399

Note: The current book is in its 11th edition.

Patsbro
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AlanM
Posted 2010-10-06 8:58 PM (#363466 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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I saw a number of used ones on Craigslist.org. Asking price started at about $1,200 and topped out at around, I think, $2,000. 'Bout a half-dozen guitars, and typically listed as in excellent condition. Not sure of the years of manufacture.

The search was (in Google) "Adamas 1681 site:craigslist.org"

My 1681 is a GORGEOUS guitar in sound and looks. I have a -5, and I love it.

Good luck!
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PEZ
Posted 2010-10-21 2:00 PM (#363467 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?



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I luv my 1681
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-10-21 5:18 PM (#363468 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?



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Just before I read this I had pulled-out my 1681...
I was thinking of loosening the strings cuz it spends most of it's life in the case.
Still Sounds Awesome!
Still in Perfect Tune!
Don't look any worse from being in the case a Full Tune!
I worked on my fingerpicking for a few minutes, then put it back in the case without de-tuning it.
But it is a beautiful sounding and playing guitar.

[I paid $1149 in April 2009, but that was best offer in a bad economy... he was asking $1500]
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smokey
Posted 2010-10-21 5:20 PM (#363469 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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So Art, why don't you play it more often?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-10-21 5:24 PM (#363470 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?



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Originally posted by smokey:
So Art, why don't you play it more often?
Dunno... I'm skeered of breaking it?!
While I was just playing it I was thinking that I should take this out busking.
I might once I get this fingerpicking thing down.
I have only seriously started working on it, and right now I can only make pretty noises...
But that is the whole purpose of the exercise, right?
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smokey
Posted 2010-10-21 5:59 PM (#363471 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?


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That should be the most durable guitar you have.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2010-10-21 6:22 PM (#363472 - in reply to #363450)
Subject: Re: Adamas 1681 Value?



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+2. Take a good guitar an an old case (someone spat in mine once and I never got it out of the brown velour).

Play that little sucker!
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