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'66 Balladeer bracing

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ksdaddy
Posted 2010-12-02 10:30 AM (#360296)
Subject: '66 Balladeer bracing


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Here's a pic of the top bracing of #093:

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marenostrum
Posted 2010-12-02 10:54 AM (#360297 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing



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I have a 67 Deluxe Balladeer which, of course, has the same bracing. It sounds fantastic !
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-12-02 11:05 AM (#360298 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing


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It would be interesting if Ovation were to build a deep bowl guitar today with this same bracing pattern......
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-12-02 11:44 AM (#360299 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing
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GCDB and Josh White has the same pattern
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Beal
Posted 2010-12-02 12:40 PM (#360300 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing



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you really need a cross brace or two in the ass end.
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ksdaddy
Posted 2010-12-02 1:01 PM (#360301 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing


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That's what I would have thought but the top on this is flatter than a pancake with 12-53 at concert pitch.

Go figger.
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cholloway
Posted 2010-12-02 1:29 PM (#360302 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing


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I assume those evolved into the Ovation X pattern?

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twistedlim
Posted 2010-12-02 1:34 PM (#360303 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing


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Probably not too many split from the bridge to the bottom with that cross brace?
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-12-02 1:41 PM (#360304 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing



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It's pretty clear to me that it was helicopter guys who created that early bracing pattern.
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mgbgt
Posted 2010-12-02 7:29 PM (#360305 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing


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Although I check quite often,have been searching a long time for that bracing profile. is the X 90'?

Had a neighbor in fl late 60's with balladeer and have never forgot that sound, no bridge plate shirley (RIP Nielsen) contributes that sound along with bottom cross brace to balance things out . Maybe just the way I remember it, but haven't heard another O that has matched that sound
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ksdaddy
Posted 2010-12-02 7:39 PM (#360306 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing


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Well, there are 16 Os and As in this house and I can say none of them sound like this. I won't say it's better or worse, but it's different. I'm hopeful the refret will bring the neck into submission.
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seesquare
Posted 2010-12-02 9:26 PM (#360307 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing


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So, whuddya tink of this?

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mgbgt
Posted 2010-12-02 10:06 PM (#360308 - in reply to #360296)
Subject: Re: '66 Balladeer bracing


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the bracing pattern seesquare shows is the one I have found on most of my early O finds. Looks like leftover helioblade epoxy for X brace re-enforcement vs what looks like a wood patch on original braced.
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