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Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties

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Damon67
Posted 2011-02-28 12:51 AM (#355369)
Subject: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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Something I've been wanting for a long time. Just got it today. I can't remember the last time I purchased an acoustic instrument that wasn't black.

Now I have to do some cramming. I haven't played a Mando for nearly 30 years.

















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Waskel
Posted 2011-02-28 9:26 AM (#355370 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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It's not black?
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Damon67
Posted 2011-02-28 10:18 AM (#355371 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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It is black. I guess I worded that poorly.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2011-02-28 10:40 AM (#355372 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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I've been playing mandolin for a few months. I'll have to be on the lookout for one of these. :cool:
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AlanM
Posted 2011-02-28 1:26 PM (#355373 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties


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Gorgeous pictures, as usual, Damon! You've got some really nice photography equipment there! And a REALLY good eye.
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Avatar4550
Posted 2011-02-28 2:17 PM (#355374 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties


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I've never seen one of these with 'outies' before (or black?). Were they special order only?

Definitely like the look of outies better than the typical 'innies' ones (I've got a standard issue red one myself... :( ).

And the photos (as always) are beautiful!!
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Damon67
Posted 2011-02-28 3:17 PM (#355375 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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I thought they were all outties. This is a USA made one. Is yours a celeb maybe?
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Avatar4550
Posted 2011-02-28 4:40 PM (#355376 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties


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Mine is a USA-made (red burst, innies, black faced headstock, ivoroid tuning buttons and OP24+ pre-amp).

Is this a different model entirely perhaps, than the usual ones that can be found on EBay (MM68's)?

The look of this one actually seems to have more in common with the B78 Acoustic Bass than any of the mandolins I have seen? An MM78?
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Damon67
Posted 2011-02-28 5:35 PM (#355377 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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It's a MM68. THe MM68s I've seen are all outies. I have not seen one in black before though. Just bursts and naturals

case in point on outties... MM68
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Avatar4550
Posted 2011-02-28 5:46 PM (#355378 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties


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Isn't that bizarre?

I looked at probably a 100 of these in the lead up to buying mine and I never saw one with outties, then just now I looked high and low for a picture of one with innies (to show the difference...) and every single example of a new in-store MM68 I could find was like yours?

I guess they've changed the spec and all the innies ones (old stock) are gone. They were probably harder to make and the look wasn't as dramatic as the outties ones anyway.

Hmm, maybe they'll be collectible... in 20 years?

:D
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Patch
Posted 2011-02-28 5:48 PM (#355379 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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Congrats Damon!

I've been trying to snag a black MM-68 for quite a while. I get nervous taking my Book mando to church every week, especially when it gets really cold.

That looks like a nice one for sure.
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Damon67
Posted 2011-02-28 6:45 PM (#355380 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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That's a horrible problem Patch. I'd like to help you out. Wanna trade? :D

Last year a book mando popped up, but I wasn't quick enough at the trigger. Actually, I was still unemployed too.

You are correct though. The -5 is like new. There isn't even any dust or crud in the corners of the preamp. It's a nice specimen.
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Patch
Posted 2011-02-28 7:39 PM (#355381 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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Originally posted by Damon67:
That's a horrible problem Patch. I'd like to help you out. Wanna trade? :D
Grooaann.... :rolleyes:

I've seen several natural finish -68s recently, but I would really love a black one. I had just put my Book mando back in its case last week at church when an out-of-control gear cascade took out the top of my 01C. That's the first time in nearly 30 years of playing that something like that has happened, but as upset as I was, I was certainly glad I had put the mando away first and not the guitar. ;)

I'll track down something eventually. :cool:
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2011-02-28 7:55 PM (#355382 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties


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Originally posted by Avatar4550:


I guess they've changed the spec and all the innies ones (old stock) are gone.
I don't know... the '96 LTD has outies too.
Book Mando

They are cute little buggers. Very nice in -5.
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Damon67
Posted 2011-03-02 1:20 AM (#355383 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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A MM68 started off "Maggie May" on Idol tonight.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-03-02 2:23 AM (#355384 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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Did it have innies or outies?
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Damon67
Posted 2011-03-02 9:42 AM (#355385 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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Outties, inlayed, with a gloss neck and ebony headstock veneer. And a -4
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Avatar4550
Posted 2011-03-02 3:05 PM (#355386 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties


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Couldn't find a picture of an 'innie' anywhere, so here is mine. There were so many of these available on EBay six months ago, near on unbelieveable one can't be found anywhere now...

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w124/Avatar4550/03.jpg

Still prefer the 'outies' (why didn't they make them that way in the first place?), but Mandy does the job, so I can't really complain.
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G8r
Posted 2011-03-02 3:16 PM (#355387 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties


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John, I think you may be confused by our definition of "outies" and "innies". What we've always referred to around here as "innies" are the epaulets that arc inward, the original Adamas design:



Whereas "outies" are epaulets that make sort of an "S" shape with the bottom-most portion curving outward:



(Images courtesy of Jerome's site)


I think what you're referring to as "innies", now that I see the picture of your mando, are epaulets that are fully inlaid into and flush with the top, versus overlaid and just proud of the soundboard. The inlaid epaulets are relatively recent, and were introduced with a new CNC process on one of the Collector's series (I forget which one).
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Avatar4550
Posted 2011-03-02 3:27 PM (#355388 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties


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Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I thought there must have been something amiss, as these inlaid (and NOT innie) ones were so common.

Now that you've pointed it out, I can't really say I have noticed the outwardly turned epaulets before. I guess when you look at so many Adami, it all just goes blurry after a while...

Very good to know and I will definitely be looking more closely in future.

:o
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Damon67
Posted 2011-03-02 5:17 PM (#355389 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties



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I just figured it was a Canadian thing, eh?
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Avatar4550
Posted 2011-03-02 6:30 PM (#355390 - in reply to #355369)
Subject: Re: Return of the Red Blanket (Part II) Lil' Outties


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That's what you get when you start watching a movie in the middle...

The only time I have ever heard the expression 'innie/outie' used was in relation to people's navels... ie. sticking up or turned in. It didn't even occur to me that you were referring to whether the inlays were pointing up or down.

Just another example of knowing only half as much as you think you do and about a quarter of what you actually need to.

Not the first time I've lost the plot... and definitely won't be the last, but when someone refers to an innie now...

:o :o :o
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