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Slipkid
Posted 2011-04-02 10:07 AM (#353957)
Subject: practice, practice, practice



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Sometimes tedious, repeatitive, same-ole/same-ole.
The evening only redeemed by the friendly conversation.

But sometimes, like last night... creative, rewarding, invigorating and FUN.
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-04-02 1:33 PM (#353958 - in reply to #353957)
Subject: Re: practice, practice, practice



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It's like a haiku....
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Waskel
Posted 2011-04-02 8:11 PM (#353959 - in reply to #353957)
Subject: Re: practice, practice, practice



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...only different.
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stephent28
Posted 2011-04-02 11:45 PM (#353960 - in reply to #353957)
Subject: Re: practice, practice, practice



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....yet stimulating.
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AlanM
Posted 2011-04-03 8:13 AM (#353961 - in reply to #353957)
Subject: Re: practice, practice, practice


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Nice!
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AlanM
Posted 2011-04-03 10:27 AM (#353962 - in reply to #353957)
Subject: Re: practice, practice, practice


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Do you go through alternating periods of rapid improvement and learning followed by frustrating plateaux, then back to good progress?

I do...The good news seems to be that steadier practicing DOES seem to shorten the plateaux.
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Slipkid
Posted 2011-04-03 12:59 PM (#353963 - in reply to #353957)
Subject: Re: practice, practice, practice



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yes.

Does "plateaux" have an x at the end or is that the French spelling?
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-04-03 1:23 PM (#353964 - in reply to #353957)
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Never play Scrabble with Alan. He manages to always use up those hard to place tiles.
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G8r
Posted 2011-04-03 2:18 PM (#353965 - in reply to #353957)
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French plural.
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AlanM
Posted 2011-04-03 2:40 PM (#353966 - in reply to #353957)
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Sorry 'bout that...I spend a good chunk of my time speaking French and another bunch of time speaking Russian. Sometimes they get mixed up in my head. I suspect the correct English plural uses an "s".
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MWoody
Posted 2011-04-03 8:30 PM (#353967 - in reply to #353957)
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Say Love Eeh!
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AlanM
Posted 2011-04-04 12:44 PM (#353968 - in reply to #353957)
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Originally posted by MWoody:
Say Love Eeh!
ELP?
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MWoody
Posted 2011-04-04 2:24 PM (#353969 - in reply to #353957)
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I'm still working on this English thing...
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G8r
Posted 2011-04-04 3:00 PM (#353970 - in reply to #353957)
Subject: Re: practice, practice, practice


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Originally posted by AlanM:
Originally posted by MWoody:
Say Love Eeh!
ELP?
Say it out loud and rapidly, Alan...
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AlanM
Posted 2011-04-04 4:44 PM (#353971 - in reply to #353957)
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Lol! I know! Wasn't something like "C'est la vie" an ELP song?
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Waskel
Posted 2011-04-04 4:56 PM (#353972 - in reply to #353957)
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And Protest the Hero, and Shania Twain, and Bob Seger, and...
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AlanM
Posted 2011-04-04 5:01 PM (#353973 - in reply to #353957)
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I've heard only the ELP one.

And even that was, shall we say, some years back.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2011-04-04 5:25 PM (#353974 - in reply to #353957)
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I kept saying "ELP" loud and rapidly, like G8r suggested, till my coworkers came running in.
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fillhixx
Posted 2011-04-04 11:29 PM (#353975 - in reply to #353957)
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.....well, just the two British Tossers there on exchange....
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nikon4004
Posted 2011-04-05 11:13 AM (#353976 - in reply to #353957)
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The British spead English...Here in America, we spekk Ahmeeerikan

Unless oyu are Canadian, and NO one understands the accent! Eh!
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6L6
Posted 2011-04-13 12:05 PM (#353977 - in reply to #353957)
Subject: Re: practice, practice, practice


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When asked about how much he practiced on the guitar, the late, GREAT Tommy Todesco (the most recorded guitarist in history) said, "I've never practiced on guitar. However, I have 'played' on the guitar and there's a BIG difference."

I'm with Tommy.

I can honestly say that since I first picked up a guitar back in 1963 I have only looked forward to playing it. Never, ever felt like I was practicing anything, just playing and enjoying the instrument.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2011-04-13 3:17 PM (#353978 - in reply to #353957)
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I recently started lessons for the first time. The up side is that it motivates me to practice and I feel that I've improved faster in 4 or 5 weeks of lessons than I did in several months of trying to learn something on my own. The down side is that I spend less time playing the songs that I already know. I enjoy playing those songs, that's why I know them. I wish I could follow Matt's advice and divide up my practice time, but I don't spend enough time to do that. Fortunately, my instructor enjoys teaching different techniques as parts of songs and knows a lot of songs that I enjoy learning, so that is working well. I just hope he doesn't run out.
Fortunately for me, like Mr. Tanner, music is my life, not my livelihood, so I don't need to practice something I don't enjoy.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-04-13 4:53 PM (#353979 - in reply to #353957)
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As part of the resident band, we have to learn a half dozen new songs every week to go along with four or five familiar songs. I don't spend too much time working on songs that are slower than, say, 1/4 notes at 90/minute, or faster songs with familiar chords. Most of my practice work is spent on the fast stuff requiring complex jazz type chord changes including transitional/passing chords. I like it when the band obtains the music ahead of time and works through it so that when we come together for rehearsal, we work on tempo, balance and mapping rather than woodshedding notes. I also prefer, at the minimum, to be familiar with the instrumental bridge in the event they ask me to take the lead. To practice this, I'll play the bridge chords on the looper and then improvise a lead on top. It may not be the same as what I actually play when called upon, but at least I'll have a feel of what works and where I generally want to be on the frets.

As others have said, this is very enjoyable to me. Even though I don't spend a lot of time playing familiar songs, I don't see it as "practice." There are some exercises I'll go through to limber up my fingers, usually playing on top of some blues jam tracks. The hardest part of "practice" in the bandroom is selecting the guitar so as to ensure that everything gets played every once in awhile.

With SWMBO out of town for a few weeks, I've had some extra time lately. Two nights ago, I plugged the iDea preamp into the 1778RF and played through all the jam tracks I downloaded from the website last year. The variety of music genre represented in the tracks allows for a lot of creativity. That took maybe an hour and a half and loosened me up pretty good.

On another topic, I can't speak to the iDea preamp as part of the overseas guitar in which they were orginally marketed, but when used in a higher end model, I think its a fine preamp with excellent tone. The fact that it does a lot of other things makes it a very worthwhile practice tool.
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Slipkid
Posted 2011-04-13 7:32 PM (#353980 - in reply to #353957)
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I hope someday to get the chance to hear the chops ya got Prof.
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fillhixx
Posted 2011-04-13 7:54 PM (#353981 - in reply to #353957)
Subject: Re: practice, practice, practice



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Jumping back a bit....in Quebec some speak Franglish, where they use whichever word is shorter with no regard for whether it's English or French.

Very weird to hear, the uni-lingual can almost feel like they understand another language.


Meanwhile, ON topic.
'Sometimes the best thing you can do for your guitar playing is go fishing'
Eric Clapton
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