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Location: Ohio | I know its all personal preference, but as an average if there is one, what should stinr height be on the 1st fret high E, and on nthe 12th fret High E.
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | 1/16" |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by nikon4004:
I know its all personal preference, but as an average if there is one, what should stinr height be on the 1st fret high E, and on nthe 12th fret High E.
bte....this is a Celebrity Dlx. Low enough to play easily, high enough not to buzz or rattle.... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | first fret, .003; 12th fret .075 to .1" |
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Location: Utah | First fret - nearly touching the first fret when you press the string down between frets 2 and 3. This will only happen when the nut slot is just barely higher than fret 1. If the string touches doing this test it means the nut (fret 0) is lower than fret 1 and you will almost certainly get buzzing on the open string.
Next, set the relief by capoing at frets 1 and 13. The string should have a paper thin gap above fret 6. If you play very quickly, e.g. lead guitar licks at high speed, set it really low. If you strum chords on your acoustic moderately or more, set it a bit higher (more relief). When you're all done with the setup you should not get buzzing when playing your normal style in these mid frets. If so the neck is too straight.
Finally, adjust shims so that you don't get buzzing above the 12th fret.
As you can tell, I don't use precise numerical measurements to set up my guitars. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | using the above method for setting the amount of warp in the neck the gap at the 6th fret should be .006 +/- .002. |
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Location: Ohio | Gonna take some work I guess.
Seems high and ther are no shims to remove.
Will the nut pop out or are they glued in. If glued, what is th easiet way to remove it. Do you recommend sanding the bottom of the nut or filing the slots. |
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Location: Utah | File the slots. Get the good files from stew-mac, not the cheapo ones. The cheapo ones work, they just don't cut very fast.
Wrap the headstock with paper towel and then put masking tap over it to hold it in place. This is to prevent scratching the face of the headstock with the tip of the file.
Match the angle of the slot and cut it a bit deeper. Be very careful as you get close to the correct depth! Sometimes even one stroke too many will ruin the nut and you'll have to replace it. Not a disaster, but frustrating for sure.
Do it when you need to change strings, because you'll ruin the strings in this process due to numerous tuning/loosening cycles as you check your work.
When the slots are where you want them, tune all the strings somewhat. Then file the top of the nut down until you start to contact each string. This assures that the slots aren't too deep of a canyon, and helps prevent too much friction. You can even file more of the nut down at the wound strings, but leave at least 3/4 the diameter of the string. Take the strings off and gently sand the nut with some 400 grit paper and then some finer paper until it is nice and smooth.
If you have to replace the nut, it isn't that hard. Tusq is easy to work with. It'll take a couple hours of fiddling the first time you do it, then the next ones go a lot faster. |
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Location: Utah | I always try and keep my neck straight and I like my action to be 3/32 on the low E at fret 12. The high E will be almost the same at the 12 fret, sometimes just a tiny bit lower.
Be really careful filing the nut slots. Not worth screwing it up if you don't feel comfortable doing it. Take it to a good repair guy. |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | Agree with above but I usally go 5/64 on low E at the twelth. High E will usually be just below 4/64. My Ovations can make this easily if not lower. I do have to adjust the truss rod to keep just a very slight relief. Stewart McDonald make an excellent guage to check this worth the money.
Steve |
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