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Mark in Boise
Posted 2012-01-07 12:25 PM (#344775)
Subject: Red Viper


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This is my second try on this topic. It's been so long I forgot how. So this post will be shorter.

My GAS for Vipers peaked when the tuner broke on one of my GSs and the other one needed a truss rod adjustment, so I started looking for a backup for my lessons.
Woody's OFC Fundraiser really got me going. Someone else needed it more, but SWMBO committed to a Viper for Christmas, so I found this substitute. Flawed, but still works, like its owner.
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MWoody
Posted 2012-01-07 12:40 PM (#344776 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper



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Awesome Mark! A very worthy unit.

I bet it would look even sweeter on a red blanket.
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Darkbar
Posted 2012-01-07 1:17 PM (#344777 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper



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Also, if you wear a red cardigan whilst playing it.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2012-01-07 1:27 PM (#344778 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper


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And red shoes.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2012-01-07 2:09 PM (#344779 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper


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I don't have any of those, but I thought it might
blend in with a red blanket too much.
A brass nut and a noticeable attempt to blend the paint on the back of the neck makes me think it might have been beheaded at some point, but I couldn't find any evidence under the TRC.
Also, the tone and volume knobs don't seem original, but I try to play them, rather than just look at them and it plays very well.
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Damon67
Posted 2012-01-07 2:58 PM (#344780 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper



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I like red guitars. Nice grab Mark, congrats.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2012-01-08 12:38 PM (#344781 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper



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Nice !!!!!!
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standing
Posted 2012-01-08 2:24 PM (#344782 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper



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I know you've been GASing for a Viper for a while, glad you found one Mark, congrats! The red ones are more difficult to find, (and they sound better.) ;)

I found some knobs for mine that look pretty close to the originals, but I don't recall the details... I'll try to dig up the info and get it to you.

They're great guitars, those single coil pickups are superb. I think you will be really happy with it. They are yet-another under-appreciated Ovation model.

Have fun.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2012-01-08 6:15 PM (#344783 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper


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The knobs on mine ar close to original, but the diameter isn't large enough. The dots on the pickguard are so far away from the knobs, I didn't know what they were at first. If Miles or Mike happen to have a set, I'd be interested.
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Damon67
Posted 2012-01-08 6:36 PM (#344784 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper



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I think Viper knobs are pretty elusive.

You might need to settle for one of these...

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Mark in Boise
Posted 2012-01-11 1:52 PM (#344785 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper


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I brought it down to my guitar lesson yesterday. We're working on Sultans of Swing and it sounds and plays great. It's not bad looking, either, but it's far from perfect.
So I brought it back to the office after my lesson to show it to some guitar playing coworkers. The first guy starts playing Sultans of Swing on it note for note and I didn't even tell him that was what I was trying to learn. Maybe some sort of omen, but I have a lot of work to do with that guitar to get to his level. He also plays a great golf game. I am green with envy.
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touchpoint
Posted 2012-01-12 12:01 PM (#344786 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper


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Does the ViperIII use the same knobs as the Viper?
It lookes like the Viper knobs are just a little bigger in diameter than the ViperIII.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2012-01-12 2:44 PM (#344787 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper


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Originally posted by touchpoint:
Does the ViperIII use the same knobs as the Viper?
It lookes like the Viper knobs are just a little bigger in diameter than the ViperIII.
They look like the same size to me, but it's hard to tell from pictures, particularly if, like mine, the knobs aren't original. I saw what I believe is a picture of an original Viper III and the knobs look like the size that I should have on my Viper. The original knobs come very close to the white dot markers on the pickguard. Mine are about 1/4 inch away.
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Puppetman
Posted 2012-01-12 4:37 PM (#344788 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper


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Just checked my guitars ... the Viper has the same knobs as the Breadwinner, Deacon and Preacher Deluxe. The Viper III knobs are the same as the Preacher and Magnum II bass.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2012-01-12 7:40 PM (#344789 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper


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Thanks. I'm not sure I'll find the right ones, but at least I may be able to avoid replacing the wrong ones with other wrong ones.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-01-12 8:32 PM (#344790 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper


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I have seen both the standard Viper knobs and the smaller UKII knobs on Viper III's. I'll check the brochures to verify which was more popular, but I'm pretty sure it was the smaller ones.
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MWoody
Posted 2012-01-13 9:51 AM (#344791 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper



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I do have an assortment of Viper knobs but they are the faded ones that keep being traded for...


Maybe do a little buff job and apply some pearl nail polish to the numbers...
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MWoody
Posted 2012-01-13 10:08 AM (#344792 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper



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A little visual guide:

Original


Original Breadwinner big ones


Little ones

Little ones


Original


Original


Little ones

Minimalist
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2012-01-13 10:46 AM (#344793 - in reply to #344775)
Subject: Re: Red Viper


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If they don't say Volume and Tone on them, I'd forget which was which.
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