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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I gave my friend, Tom, a destroyed 1112-1. He wants to rebuild it. He wants to know what kind of glue is used to attach the top. He wants to take the top off and either repair it, or use it as a pattern to build another. Here is what he has to work with...
    
Anyway, I bought this just for the case and maybe the tuners. And use the rest for a Jello Mold.
But Tom wants the try to rebuild it, so I told him to go for it!
So the question is... Can you Steam the top off? Or would you use a heat gun? What kind of glue do they use?
(Epoxy, Crazy Glue, Elmer's, What?)
And how do you get the top off in one piece?
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Location: Upper Left USA | They use epoxy so there is no catch and release plan... Rip and tear and make a new top.
I think the braces are on with a meltable wood glue though and may be reused.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Check the archives. Seems like somebody did this a year or so ago. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | You can't save the top. Set the router bit the thickness of the top and run it around the edge binding- like you were opening a can of beans. The braces will detach, though, with heat & a thin knife (a frosting knife is really ideal). I have some spare OEM walnut bridges, brand new. Even have a spare top- just needs to be joined, glued, & sanded. You'll need a "hobby panel" of 24X24X3/4" plywood for a workboard. Come readymade at Home Depot for about $5.00. Buy 2. One for working the top, the other for a gluing jig. May need to make some new kerfing, too. Attach the top with 2-part epoxy. I hear The MotherShip uses the 5-minute type, but then- they know what they're doing. I use the 90-minute type, thank you very much. Routing for the binding is a bit more tricky. Actually, you can do it with a handtool made of a maple block & a sharpened hacksaw blade- if you don't have a router & $100.00-worth of graduated, piloted bits.
Now, as for rosettes- I can attest to the tedium of those accoutrements! Kinda fun, though. Pandora, the rehabbed 1617, is currently on FleaBay, and has one of my "signature" devices attached. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Sounds like fun Chris. But I ain't the one doing this. I plan on telling Tom to check here for instructions.
My advice was; If you wanna try to save it, just glue it back together they way it is.
Then, if that don't work, remove the top and start afresh.
Also, I figured that I would let him practice on this... Decide if he Really wants to be a Luthier! If he did well, or at least learned from his mistakes, then I would let him try my 1112-Beater!
Maybe get him away from them Seagulls and Gibsons.
My sentiments about the epoxy too. Last time I bought some I got the 20 minute stuff, so I could move it around.
I didn't know that it came in the 90 variety!
So keep the advice coming. Step-by-Step Destructions couldn't hurt :rolleyes: |
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BFLG Repair/Rebuilt Advice - instructions needed
