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So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .

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First Alternate
Posted 2008-07-05 1:44 PM (#31674)
Subject: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .
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I've essentially got G.A.S., but I want my new acquisition to do something the others don't. Never played a long neck, but I like the idea that I can tune down without losing tone or having to go to a heavier gauge string.

Of the two featured at the Ovation site, the DS778 seems to be the more high end guitar.

Are there any problems inherent to these instruments as a result of the longer necks? Is there anything I'm not asking that I should know?

Thanks.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-07-05 3:21 PM (#31675 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .



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The play the same and the chords are the same.....just sounds like a train rolling through the house.

The D768 is definitely the way to go unless you want to drop the big bucks and have a custom made Adamas longneck.

I've got the twin 2080D's (6 & 12 strings), Beal has a wide neck 2080D and I believe Cliff has one of Beal's longnecks also.

Great fun guitars!
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stephent28
Posted 2008-07-05 3:22 PM (#31676 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .



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Forgot to mention that my song submission is played on the 2080D longneck. Lots of low end rumble!!!!
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2008-07-05 3:59 PM (#31677 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .


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I don't have any experience with long-necked acoustics, but on a long-necked electric, you need heavier strings. If you use lighter gauges, they just flop around and rattle, and you get no tone.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-07-05 4:15 PM (#31678 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .



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Same with the acoustics. Mediums at a minimum.
Right now mine seems to be strung with the guitar equivalent of aircraft control cables tuned to open B... like playing a 6 string cello.
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Beal
Posted 2008-07-05 6:14 PM (#31679 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .



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They don't flop too bad. I used regular lites on mine, 28.3" scale, and tuned it to D and it's the same tension and a 25 1/2 scale tuned to E. At least that's the way I wanted to design it and the engineers said that's what it was. Sure sounds that way. But Allison's point is correct, a 25 1/2" scale tuned to D with light guage would be pretty wimmpy, yes with two m's.
I have since gone to using the green heavy D'Addario set, 14-59 and tune it to B or C. That's what I used on the submission for the CD as well.
Long way to answer your question. The answer is they are the same as a regular guitar, all the same issues that you really don't need to worry about.
Get a good one, the US made one.
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muzza
Posted 2008-07-06 4:02 AM (#31680 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .



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Now to expose my ignorance. Is the longneck similar to a 12 fretter, ie the bridge is in the middle of the soundboard? But the longer neck SEEMS like a normal length neck? Am I in the ballpark?
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-07-06 5:56 AM (#31681 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .



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The long neck has a longer neck.
You'll notice it right away.
You'll also notice that there is more space between the first two frets.
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First Alternate
Posted 2008-07-06 8:57 AM (#31682 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .
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OK, good info. Thanks for the replies.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2008-07-06 2:14 PM (#31683 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .


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Originally posted by muzza:
ie the bridge is in the middle of the soundboard?
The bridge is set further aft IIRC.
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Beal
Posted 2008-07-08 10:00 AM (#31684 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .



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It's like a 12 fret guitar so the bridge in further in the middle of the top. Then there are two extra frets so it's still a 14 fret guitar. Best of both worlds!
A brilliant design if I do say so myself.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-07-08 10:24 AM (#31685 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .



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Yep, Kudos to the fella that designed that one.

Pure genius!
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cliff
Posted 2008-07-08 10:29 AM (#31686 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .


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Yeah, too bad he left the company . . . .
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stephent28
Posted 2008-07-08 11:44 AM (#31687 - in reply to #31674)
Subject: Re: So, Tell Me About Longnecks . . .



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heard he got into a bad habit of sniffing gas fumes....
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