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fillhixx
Posted 2006-03-20 5:27 PM (#261613 - in reply to #261588)
Subject: Re: What is the "Ovation" sound



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Well, that is beauty in the ear of the behelder...
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Jeff
Posted 2006-03-20 6:15 PM (#261614 - in reply to #261588)
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It's what comes out of an Ovation when you play it...
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amstphd
Posted 2006-03-20 8:09 PM (#261615 - in reply to #261588)
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When you buy a new Martin or a Taylor, you're really buying what you hope it's going to sound like in a few years. The change in the tone of a new Ovation over its life span is much less pronounced.
Peace,
John
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richardd
Posted 2006-03-20 8:33 PM (#261616 - in reply to #261588)
Subject: Re: What is the "Ovation" sound


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I would never buy a guitar in the hope that it will sound great in a few years. If it doesn't have the tone when you buy it, it never will.

As far as the Ovation tone. I totally agree that acousticaly they have an extremely balanced tone but also great string to string separation which makes them hard to beat when you finally plug'em in.
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Beal
Posted 2006-03-20 9:00 PM (#261617 - in reply to #261588)
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well said.
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dobro
Posted 2006-03-21 4:06 PM (#261618 - in reply to #261588)
Subject: Re: What is the "Ovation" sound



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There's more, guys: When you're messing with strange chords, open voicings with narrow intervals (think Towner or acoustic John Mc.) the Ovation responds with a dark, brooding sustain where all sorts of harmonics wander, unsupervised. It's like a swarm of sonic ghosts: downright spooky sometimes! I am really impressed with what I hear now and then on a high-quality recording: things other guitars would swallow and muffle. Ovations make you play clear and strong: not much room for waffling etc. I think that has something to do with why the vulgar crowd dislikes the great O. Let them have sweet and soft, give me my deep bowl and spark it up (no shrooms or acid today).

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surfnguitar
Posted 2006-03-21 11:12 PM (#261619 - in reply to #261588)
Subject: Re: What is the "Ovation" sound


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I think a good example of the "Ovation" sound can be heard in the Simon & Garfunkel @ Central Park video or album. These are all songs everyone has heard a million times on Simon's Martin, or whatever was used in the recordings. In this concert he plays a black Custom Legend on most of the songs, and the sound is uniquely different -noticeably. It's very easy to get an Ovation to sound like that -plugged in. But, no other guitar will.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-03-22 8:41 AM (#261620 - in reply to #261588)
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Originally posted by surfnguitar:
I think a good example of the "Ovation" sound can be heard in the Simon & Garfunkel @ Central Park video or album. It's very easy to get an Ovation to sound like that -plugged in. But, no other guitar will.
Good post.

If I could point to a single event that completely turned me on to Ovation, That was it.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2006-03-22 8:48 AM (#261621 - in reply to #261588)
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Some people might agree and/or disagree with me on this one. Personally, the Ovation sound is one that projects well, characterized with a bright, crisp tone, crystal clear sound, and light timbre. Based on looks alone, it has its own personality that stands out apart from the other guitars. It is not “boxy” or “woody” sounding as a solid-wood guitar, and it may not be loud (depending on the bowl depth), but it sure has a distinct sound that makes a guitar player, like myself widen my range or scope. Last summer, I asked a friend of mine to play the 1861 and M DM outdoors (unplugged) while I stood and listened from a distance of about 20 feet. The Ovation shallow bowl managed to project itself more effectively, and it seemed like the sound was aimed directly at me that I could hear the details from the plucking of the strings to the fingers hammering on certain frets. As for the DM, despite its pleasant tone, tended to disperse its sound in different directions, thus I was not able to clearly hear the details of its tones from where I was standing. Up close and plugged in, of course, it was a different story but the Ovation comes alive when plugged in an amp.

Just my .02 worth ...
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-03-22 9:07 AM (#261622 - in reply to #261588)
Subject: Re: What is the "Ovation" sound
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string tubes...is that like the cool tube on takamine???

The clarity of tone that the Ovation has, from unplugged outside to plugged in on the platform in worship or on stage with REK...day after day, night after night, the clarity is the same, the tuning is the same, the action is the same. Rather playing the '74 Glen Campbell Artist or the new 1777LX, it's ALL good!

Can't say that about my Taylor or my Guild or my Martin...

;)
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Waskel
Posted 2006-03-22 9:21 AM (#261623 - in reply to #261588)
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Greg, how's your new 1866? ;)
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an4340
Posted 2006-03-22 10:45 AM (#261624 - in reply to #261588)
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SRV used string tubes. I saw a picture.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-03-22 10:51 AM (#261625 - in reply to #261588)
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And look where it got him.
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-03-22 9:26 PM (#261626 - in reply to #261588)
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Hey John! The 1866 is awesome...EVERYTHING you could ask for in a 12! Thanks again!...oh...and now that is the one people want to hear in Worship, so the 1777LX is sitting on the dual herc getting lonely. :) You going to the factory tour?
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tragocaster
Posted 2006-03-23 10:59 PM (#261627 - in reply to #261588)
Subject: Re: What is the "Ovation" sound


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Well there's the public perception of how an Ovation is "supposed" to sound - and my super shallow Celebrity fits that definition to a T, both plugged and unplugged.

Then there's those "other" Ovation guitars that we don't get to hear so much about (let alone try out). I have a deep bowl Legend from about 1980 that has such a low end thump that it's almost embarrassing. It eats dreadnoughts in the low end department. I still have my Matrix and, while it doesn't have the low end that the Legend does, it does seem very well balanced sounding, and definately NOT thin or tinny.
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matrix
Posted 2006-03-24 8:06 AM (#261628 - in reply to #261588)
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When I used to play at fiddle contests,the fiddlers would always get me to back them up. They said they could hear my ovation better through a mike. Ever try to mike a D28?
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JOXTER
Posted 2006-03-27 9:27 PM (#261629 - in reply to #261588)
Subject: Re: What is the "Ovation" sound


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My Ovation isn't making a sound... its off getting a new saddle and a little crack repair while we're at it. That guitar hasn't been away from me in 25 or more years, I miss it.

Meanwhile I hope you'all forgive me for playing my wooden box guitar, a pretty well balanced Larrivee OM-03.

So do you think I should take the O to a bluegrass jam when it get it back?
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Buckaroo
Posted 2006-03-27 9:37 PM (#261630 - in reply to #261588)
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Don't be skeert. Try not to make those box banging wood butchers jealous.
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-03-28 11:53 AM (#261631 - in reply to #261588)
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And you might have to play a little softer than your accustomed to...just so's the others can be heard.
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schroeder
Posted 2006-03-28 5:51 PM (#261632 - in reply to #261588)
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Messing around recording this week I realised that the Ovation sound I love most, and the sound that is Ovation to me, is a (Custom) Legend. Jeff's ute sounds way better in musical terms, but when you play the sounds back it's the Legend that has that unmistakeable O sound. I've obviously spent too many years listening to AdM.
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