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Jérôme
Posted 2006-04-03 3:29 PM (#259521)
Subject: Ovation in Frankfurt ...



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Hi,

Like in 2005, our German friend Karl sent me some great pics from the last "Music Messe" in Frankfurt.
These pics are now on the site:
OVATION IN FRANKFURT

I'm sure that Karl would be glad to make some comments about these pics.

Thanks Karl, you Rock... ;)

J :)
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Beal
Posted 2006-04-03 4:18 PM (#259522 - in reply to #259521)
Subject: Re: Ovation in Frankfurt ...



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Dave, you gotta love the pink uke.
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-03 7:35 PM (#259523 - in reply to #259521)
Subject: Re: Ovation in Frankfurt ...



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I like the black electric V better ...
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-04-04 4:14 AM (#259524 - in reply to #259521)
Subject: Re: Ovation in Frankfurt ...


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I bought the 8 string Taropatch uke from that booth and my business partner took the black V and the Bushman Electro Tenor.

In one of the walkways between the halls there were some display cases with Ovation, Hamer and Takamine guitars. In one cabinet the guitar changed daily and on the Friday it was a contour bowl, 12-fret, slothead Custom Legend. Apparently custom made for someone called Dieter, as it had his name inlaid in the fingerboard. Very cool guitar. I took a couple of pics but they're not great due to the lighting.
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v74
Posted 2006-04-04 4:52 AM (#259525 - in reply to #259521)
Subject: Re: Ovation in Frankfurt ...


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I personally don't like 2080 and 1680 adamas in term of look. (because I never test the sound myself)

They just can't beat the Adamas I and II look.

1773 look clean and nice with cool slothead.

Again....I envy you guy.
I wish Bangkok has some G fair like this.
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richardd
Posted 2006-04-04 5:57 AM (#259526 - in reply to #259521)
Subject: Re: Ovation in Frankfurt ...


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Originally posted by v74:
They just can't beat the Adamas I and II look.

I totally agree. They will always be "the" Adamas guitars to me.

I'm suprised they don't offer one as a regular production model as part of the Traditional Series perhaps.
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-04 6:54 AM (#259527 - in reply to #259521)
Subject: Re: Ovation in Frankfurt ...



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Originally posted by richardd:
They will always be "the" Adamas guitars to me.
I agree. And deep bowl non-cutaway guitars with round center soundholes anf floral rosettes will always be "the" Ovation guitars to me. Just call me old fashioned.

Dave
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Waskel
Posted 2006-04-04 7:11 AM (#259528 - in reply to #259521)
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Dave, you're old-fashioned.

"The" Ovation guitars can have cutaways sometimes, too.
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-04 7:19 AM (#259529 - in reply to #259521)
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Maybe "Your" THE ovation can have a cutaway, but "My" THE ovation does not. As if anyone other than you and I probably care ...

Dave
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Waskel
Posted 2006-04-04 7:22 AM (#259530 - in reply to #259521)
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Originally posted by Standingovation:
As if anyone other than you and I probably care ...
...good point.
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Steve
Posted 2006-04-04 10:21 AM (#259531 - in reply to #259521)
Subject: Re: Ovation in Frankfurt ...


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Paulmac, I have a question about the photo of Matt Smith playing the uke. There is a sunburst Ovation on the guitar stand next to him. It doesn't have the traditional rossette around the soundhole, and appears to be a shallow bowl. Which model guitar is that? Thanks for the help.
Steve
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-04-04 10:35 AM (#259532 - in reply to #259521)
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It's one of the new Celebrity models. Nothing to get excited about.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-04-04 11:01 AM (#259533 - in reply to #259521)
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Btw, nice shirt, Paul.
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Steve
Posted 2006-04-04 11:22 AM (#259534 - in reply to #259521)
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Hi Paul, Thanks for the information. I tend to like the plain looking models these days. If Ovation made a USA model like that one I would probably be interested. That's why I liked the look of the centerhole Adamas' they made for a few years...guess I'm tired of the rossette...
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-04 11:58 AM (#259535 - in reply to #259521)
Subject: Re: Ovation in Frankfurt ...



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Originally posted by Steve:
I have a question about the photo of Matt Smith playing the uke.
That's a mando.
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-04-04 1:20 PM (#259536 - in reply to #259521)
Subject: Re: Ovation in Frankfurt ...



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Originally posted by Steve:
Paulmac, I have a question about the photo of Matt Smith playing the uke. There is a sunburst Ovation on the guitar stand next to him. It doesn't have the traditional rossette around the soundhole, and appears to be a shallow bowl. Which model guitar is that? Thanks for the help.
Steve
Dave is right, it's a mando... ;)

Unfortunately, I was not in Frankfurt.
At my opinion, this guitar seems to be a Pinnacle CU-147 in sunburst like THIS ONE .

J :)
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Steve
Posted 2006-04-04 1:36 PM (#259537 - in reply to #259521)
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Dave, I stand corrected. I wasn't paying much attention to what he was playing, was just interested in the sunburst O' on the guitar stand. Probably is a Pinnacle, which is a step up from a Celebrity, though I've only seen the Pinnacles on the website, it seems to be Ovation's quality overseas guitar. I guess it's still made in Japan(?)
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-04 1:39 PM (#259538 - in reply to #259521)
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I know, I was just giving you a hard time. You got me all excited that I missed Matt playing a ukulele. That's on my "must see" list. Dave
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Steve
Posted 2006-04-04 1:42 PM (#259539 - in reply to #259521)
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..I don't even know how to tune a uke. I think I tuned a madolin once, and I can always tunafish :)
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-04-04 1:59 PM (#259540 - in reply to #259521)
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Originally posted by paulmac:
At my opinion, this guitar seems to be a Pinnacle CU-147 in sunburst like THIS ONE .

J :)
I tend not to pay any attention to the imported line, but I think ths was one of the new Celebrity CC models. Visually pretty similar to the Pinnacle except for the addition of fingerboard binding. Haven't seen a Pinnacle for a while and they aren't in the latest catalog.
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Standingovation
Posted 2006-04-04 2:11 PM (#259541 - in reply to #259521)
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Uke's are usually tuned GCEA low to high, which is the same as a guitar cappo'd at the 5th fret. This is actually called "Low G" tuning and is not that common. The most common is called "High G" tuning whihc simply means that instead of the G being the lowest pitch (and usually a wound string) it is one octave higher and sounds the same as 2nd string/3rd fret.

There are other kinds of variations. Some sopranos are tuned 2 fret higher (ADF#B). Baritones are usually tuned DGBE (same as guitar) or FBbDG (guitar cappo'd at 3rd fret). There are special thin guage strings you can use to string a baritone up to tenor/concert pitch (GCEA) which is what I do with mine.

Now, to get realy cool sounds, there are also 6 string ukes and 8 string ukes. These are almost always tenor scale. On a 6 string usually the 1st and 3rd courses are doubled. The 1st is doubled in unison and the 3rd is doubled in octave. On 8 strings, all four coutses are doubled. The 1st and 2nd are usually doubled in unison and the 3rd and 4th are doubled in octave.

So there you have it. NOW you know how to tune a ukulele.

Dave
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Steve
Posted 2006-04-04 2:42 PM (#259542 - in reply to #259521)
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...I'm getting dizzy reading that, let me sit down and try again :) Seriously, I would probably do the easiest tuning, the DGBE baritone, so I wouldn't have to think too much about the chords...but I will keep the tuning information for future reference. Thanks.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-04-04 2:43 PM (#259543 - in reply to #259521)
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Originally posted by Standingovation:
On 8 strings, all four coutses are doubled. The 1st and 2nd are usually doubled in unison and the 3rd and 4th are doubled in octave.

Dave
That tuning arrangement is relatively new. 8 string ukes are called Taropatches. When Martin introduced the Taropatch in the early part of the last century all the strings were paired in unison. The Taropatch proved not to be too popular, so Martin lost 4 strings but kept the larger body and this became the first concert sized Uke.
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2006-04-04 3:06 PM (#259544 - in reply to #259521)
Subject: Re: Ovation in Frankfurt ...


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Thanks Jerome for putting the pics on your web site. Here some of my impressions:

- Of the newer models available there I especially liked the Adamas 1680. Wider neck, 12-freter, slothead, textured top and deep bowl(although the label says "contour bowl"). Sound seems to be similiar to the old Adamas I (but was very hard to hear due to background noise).

- I didn't like the look of the Adamas 2080 (tear drop), it's made for a target group that is 20 years younger than me.

- Collector's 2006 is an eye-catcher, nice guitar but I was not sure if I like the sound. Must try it again in a silent environment. Got also less impressions about the new preamp features. They had earphones there with a lot of reverb mixed to the guitar sound.

- I observed big interest in the flame top guitars, they seem to meet the market needs.

- Paul is a sport!

- G-Band capo is a great stuff. Enables new sounds never heard before on a standard guitar.

Karl
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