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Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?

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cliff
Posted 2006-06-08 5:02 PM (#251888 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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No . . . . that's ANOTHER "STD" that Witko invented . . .
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stephent28
Posted 2006-06-08 5:08 PM (#251889 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?



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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
you never told me you were an authorized distributer.
That's SOLE DISTRIBUTOR! Dave liked them so much he bought the company!
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-06-08 5:51 PM (#251890 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?



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not SOUL distributor?...too bad.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-06-08 6:30 PM (#251891 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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Now some kid will be googling "STD" and come up with this thread. I'm chuckling at the thought.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-06-08 11:15 PM (#251892 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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I don't think he was implying that your playing skills were lacking in any way. I read it to mean that it is guitar that has a place IF you like the way it sounds. Otherwise, you'd basicaly be turning it into an Al DiMeola (New style mid-bowl legend, with different bracing), and that you'd have to learn to play jazz, just like "everybody else".

Glen Campell says they sound just fine the way they are, but you're not Glen. Seriously, changong the top out on yours will definately "improve" it's accoustic voice, but it's kinda like taking the side-oiler 427 out of an otherwise all original Shelby Cobra, to make room for a modern SVT 4.6L out of the new Mustang. It may be "better", but it's no longer original, and certainly not worth as much to a collector.

Peace and Blessings boys
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stephent28
Posted 2006-06-09 12:34 AM (#251893 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?



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It's your money Jeff. Send it in and get it fixed the way you want it. You may have been upset by the comment but bottom line, customer service and Ovation employess are dedicated to the customer and will do an outstanding job regardless of their personal feelings about changing an old original.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-06-09 12:38 AM (#251894 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?



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and while we are speaking of blasphemy, I was considering getting a #47 RI and then sending it back to the factory to have electronics put in! :eek:
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-06-09 1:14 AM (#251895 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?



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heathen :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes:
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-06-09 1:15 AM (#251896 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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Originally posted by stephent28:
and while we are speaking of blasphemy, I was considering getting a #47 RI and then sending it back to the factory to have electronics put in! :eek:
:mad: Stephen!!!
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-06-09 1:28 AM (#251897 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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Jeff,

Getting a new top and electronics put on your 1627 sounds like a great idea!! Personally, I'd try to keep the original bowl. "Someone" at the factory will do it, and make it incredible before they are satisfied. They (he) are artists (purists) of the truest sense, which can also mean they are a bit eclectic, especialy when guitars, malted barley, hops and yeast are involved :D
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-06-09 1:50 AM (#251898 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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Jeff, sorry of this sounds like a silly question. But you said you like this guitar for plugged in work and you already own some incredible acoustic guitars (I'm jealous), so I'm just wondering why you care about the acoustic sound of the GC. Seems to me you've already got all the bases covered. Maybe just upgrade the electronics on the GC to something modern and you're all set. Not trying to question your logic, just curious. You could drop quite a lot of money on a new top etc. and it'll still pale in comparison to your HD and 000. Dave
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luthier444
Posted 2006-06-09 2:59 AM (#251899 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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sorry Jeff deleted.. Bad day :( I shouldnt be here anyway.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-06-09 3:04 AM (#251900 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?



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c'mon...we'll understand
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Jeff
Posted 2006-06-09 8:25 AM (#251901 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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Originally posted by luthier444:
sorry Jeff deleted.. Bad day :( I shouldnt be here anyway.
Hey, It happens in the best os families... No worries. We all have bad days now and then. I was probably a bit overly touchy myself, so apologies to you as well, my friend. :)
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Jeff
Posted 2006-06-09 9:37 AM (#251902 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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Originally posted by Tupperware:
Jeff, sorry of this sounds like a silly question. But you said you like this guitar for plugged in work and you already own some incredible acoustic guitars (I'm jealous), so I'm just wondering why you care about the acoustic sound of the GC. Seems to me you've already got all the bases covered. Maybe just upgrade the electronics on the GC to something modern and you're all set. Not trying to question your logic, just curious. You could drop quite a lot of money on a new top etc. and it'll still pale in comparison to your HD and 000. Dave
Dave,

Not a silly question at all, and you're absolutely correct on all three points. I did buy it mainly for plugged in work and in that regard I'm very satisfied. And yes, I am blessed with some truly wonderful acoustic guitars. You're also correct in that no amount of money or upgrades will make the 1627 comparable acoustically to the Martins. So, how did this all get started...?

Well, it started when Ovation announced they would be reissuing the 1627 as part of their 40th anniversary commemoration. To say I got excited when I heard this is an understatement. Then I found out how much they were selling for... So much for my excitement. :(

Eventhough I knew I could never afford (or justify) the cost of a new reissue, it didn't stop me from waxing nostalgic for the old 1627. Then, when this one showed up on eBay, I put in a relatively low bid. To my complete surprise, I won.

If you go back to the beginning of this thread, you'll see that I was only looking for simple, low-tech ideas that might bring about subtle changes/improvements to this guitars current voice. Things like trying different strings, switching to a bone nut, etc.

The whole idea of a possible top replacement was born through an exchange of emails a while back between Paul Moody and me. I got to thinking that for a total investment of less than half the cost of a new reissue, I could have Ovation put a new "A" braced top on my guitar and it would then be pretty close to the specs of the RI. However, once the top replacement idea got introduced in this thread, it just kinda snowballed and took on a life of its own.

My priority for the more immediate future, before doing anything as radical as a top replacement on the GC, is to have pickups installed in my Martins, so I can start gigging with them (in addition to my Ovations).

Another long post (sorry), but I hope it answers your question. :)
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matrix
Posted 2006-06-09 6:29 PM (#251903 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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If I had a chance to buy an original at a good cost,I probably would get a new top. You should hear my new RI. Of course I'm comparing it to a Martin D-15, which is in the lower calibers of their guitars.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-06-09 8:14 PM (#251904 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?


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I think people here need to understand that in comparing a 1627 RI with one of Jeff's Martins, the sound is different. But "good" or "bad" in comparison, is a subjective matter. Personally, when I played a GC RI next to a new Gibson J45, it was obvious that they didn't sound the same. But quite honestly, I prefered the Ovation. It had a much better balance of sound over the Gibson.

But I understand that not everybody has my educated ear and perfect taste in sound......
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-06-10 9:37 PM (#251905 - in reply to #251838)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions To Improve The Acoustic Tone On a '70's Glen Campbell 1627?



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I think i am banned now???
not by us!
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