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Location: ranson,wva | my balladeer i just got last week has some bad scratches where the previous owner tried to fill 2 top cracks with crazy glue and sand them smooth, does any one have any ideas to fix this with out replacing the top? i allready removed all the crazy glue out of the cracks with cYa remover.ive got some pads that they use to buff scratches out of glass but i dont know if they are abrasive enough. any help is much abliged..jason |
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Location: ranson,wva | id hate to have the top replaced,it has great tone even tho it had the headstock compleatly dismembered and a third rather large crack that filled and stabilized..jason |
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Location: Tampa, FL | Lots of earlier threads regarding scratches. Try searching the archives. Most scratch polishing involves use of varying grits until you get to the final finish polish. I believe Tony C. has said it's easy, take little more than time. |
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Location: ranson,wva | thanks..now i just gotta get some guidence on what grits to use and then resealing the top..any help is much abliged..jason |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Jason,
Look over the two cracks in the Folklore. Those were:
scraped clean
filled with Cyano-glue
sanded smooth
cleaned with denatured alcohol and air
filled with Cyano-glue
sanded smooth
Repeat
I used 1000 and 1500 wet and then used the Soft Touch Finishing Pads from Stewmac
Then you can do the whole top in steps. Keep it wet!
The Cyano-glue (Krazy/Super/etc) leaves basically the same medium as the top finish. The trick is to keep it clean and build it in. |
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Location: ranson,wva | thanks mike..its a beautiful top on this old girl. its a '72 model year with not a scratch,nick,chip or anything in the bowl, it suffered some abuse in shipping sometime ago when the first owner had it..thanks again jason |
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Location: ranson,wva | one more thing mike,should i reseal the top? also whats good to use for a scraper? ive got i small finger size scraper ive used to scrape glue joints on table tops..jason |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Once you have filled and stepped up in the abrasives (1000-12000)you are just about buffed. Use a auto buffing polish and then wax.
You can't reseal Poly because it doesn't "melt" like lacquer.
Avoid the scraer and use the abrasives.
With the 1000 grit use a block. |
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Location: ranson,wva | thanks,ive worked up to 1000grit, i gotta get more supplies tomorow. thanks jason |
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Location: SoCal | StewMac says that you can use 2,000 on the catalyzed polyester but that is too rough...takes a lot of elbow grease but I highly recommend 3,600 and then finer up to about 8,000. Otherwise, you put in scratches that will be a lot of work to get out.
On the Anniversary's crack, I mixed acrylic (water soluble) colors on the top to try and match the finish, tomorrow the CyA.
Norse(waiting patiently)man, I ran out of time over the weekend but I'm working on it. ;) |
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Location: ranson,wva | thanks tony, the peghead is pretty beat up where the neck was broke,i was gonna overlay a nice peice of walnut or mahog veener over it but not shure how it would turn out. if i do it would i beable to get a replacement gold logo? jason |
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Location: SoCal | Ahhhhhhhh, maybe. Both Kim and John are great guys and they may just be able to help.
Maybe MWoody might be able to advise - one of those ones he puts on the Viper pick guards might look good...sure looks purdy. Bet he could come up with an "overlay" and raised logo :D |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Jason - John was able to send me one of the gold logos - just call them and ask. |
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Location: ranson,wva | logo's on the way, i spoke to john today...jason |
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