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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by stephent28:
Waskel, I went with the E6700 because I heard/read/was told that when running audio applications OCing served absolutely no purpose and did not show any performance gains.
However....if you are into gaming, then OCing is a big deal. True, not all applications benefit when the application is running, but open/close time can be greatly improved, and well as response from VSTi's .
Needless to say, I did not plan on OCing this one. You shouldn't need to. The performance increase over the P4 is so great that running it at stock speed should be more than adequate, and you don't have to add any additional cooling (noise). I chose to go with the 6300 for budget reasons. Plus it has so much overhead it can be overclocked to about 70% on air cooling.
Regarding the dual boot, I want both setups essentially the same except one will have all the virus crap and internet connections for updating the software, etc. Boot 2 would be a stripped to the core without anything except drivers and the sequencers. Exactly what I'm doing.
I tried the different "user profile" approach but the basic programs would still load unless I disabled them (and then still had crap in memory) Disabling the hardware and software would carry over to the original profile and I would have to start them back up. The same problem I'm having. user-switching or not, the entire registry loads, with hardware profiles drivers, etc. It gets to the point where it's faster to reboot than to switch users.
Is it safe to assume that my 2nd partition (on the boot drive) could be only about 40 gig to hold the operating system and everything else reside on the 2nd drive? It totally depends on how you configure your system and what software/VSTi's you use.
I've done a lot of research on this, and it looks like the consensus for the best config is:
OS on physical drive #1 (40Gb should be plenty - but see *)
Program Files folder on physical drive #2 (100Gb or larger *)
VSTi's on physical drive #3 (size dependent on your needs *)
Audio data on physical drive #4 (Big. Big and fast. 3 or more drives in Raid 5 if you can.)
* Some VSTi's (like NI's Elektrik Piano) won't work unless they're installed in the Program Files folder, and the data files are around 3Gb. Synths and samplers have grown to huge proportions. BFD drums come on multiple DVD's...
Now setting up this way doesn't meet everyone's budget. Mine, for example.
I already have 3 PATA133 drives, 2-120Gb and 1-250Gb.
I'm adding a SATA 320Gb which will hold my 2 boot partitions and VSTi's, and some on-line storage for things I'm not using at the moment, but don't want to hunt down the disk.
1 of the 120's and the 250 I'll use for audio data, maybe in RAID 0.
The other 120 will be an off-line backup of images of the 2 boot partitions.
I'll replace the PATA drives with SATA as money allows.
I'm using the Gigabyte P965-DS3 motherboard. Which one did you go with?
The Wabbit Formerly Known As (I gotta quit drinking so much coffee so early in the morning) Waskel. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by alpep:
personally i would love to get a studer and just do tape Al, if ya managed to pull that off, I would love to come up and have a look see and jam a bit.
Man....that would be a dream setup. |
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Location: Vermont USA | Well I am rethinking the Alesis. I am now looking at these 1. Boss MICRO BR Digital Recorder, 2. TASCAM 414mkII Portastudio, 3. Zoom MRS4B 4-Track Digital Recorder feedback on any of these please.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Waskel,
Still deciding on the MB. Currently looking at:
ASUS ATX Socket LGA775 w/P965 chipset
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe w/P975 chipset (I'm thinking overkill)
Gigabyte P965-DS3 that you have
All available locally so an easy purchase once I decide. Any reason you went with the Gigabyte over an ASUS?
So far as the drives go...I have a 500 gig external for 2 complete (progressive) backups rotated every 3 days...using retrospect software.
For drives....I have a 320 gig SATA and a 300 gig SATA.
Currently got my OS and related (gotta be there) files on the 320 gig partioned into C: and D:
Then I have the 2nd 300 gig partioned into E: F: G: with E and F at 145 gig each and G at 10 gig for a scratch partition.
I have all the audio/sequencer programs and VSTi plugins on my E drive (with about 100 gig available) and all the audio files on the F drive (again about 100 gig available).
I have another 200 gig available but it is a PATA. Not really room in the case but I could run it external.
Do I need to rethink the way I have it set up? I assumed I was ok keeping the OS separate and that keeping the others on separate partions was good enough. Sounds like you have done more research than me so what are your thoughts on this? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Paul, stay away from the cassette based units.
The others you mentioned are nice but the problem with the mircos are the crypic screens that are difficult to see and understand.
I would consider:
Korg D4 (4 track)
Tascam DP-01 (8 track)
Tascam DP-01FX (8 track w/effects and XLR jacks)
Boss BR-600 (6/8 track)
All of these are under $500 and would serve you well. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Paul,
Just saw that Musicians Friend has the Korg D4 on sale for $199 (normally $349 everywhere). Limited quantaties......I would grab one.
Actually, I am thinking about grabbing one at that price. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | okayy....I`ve been to the shop,and had a quick look,but their main man for recording gear is n`t back until tuesday,however..I did see a korg D888..about 1200 usd..and some mics..GA Project FC2ST condenser mics that come as a "matched pair" for around 250 usd,seem to be good for vocal/instrument...and GA Project FC4ST Condenser mics "matched pair" for around 160 usd for instrument use, how about these mics ,am I onto something here ,or should I move into another direction.. :confused: .. any input will be carefully considered and appreciated :)
( I feel like I`ve learned half the alphabet and now want to write my name in neon ) :rolleyes:
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Location: closely held secret | Stephen, I bounced back and forth between the Asus P5B and the Gigabyte DS3 for days. Even though the P5B had on-board firewire, what finally sold me was reading ALL the reviews for both on NewEgg. By far fewer problems and complaints on the DS3. That and the DS3 has solid capacitors. So a firewire card costs $8,. Still cheaper than the P5B, and more dependable.
Your drive setup sounds like it should work great.
The only thing I might suggest is if you use any disk intensive software samplers you put them on a separate physical drive than your audio.
Paul, I agree, if you can grab one of the Korgs, go for it. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Guess I need to head over to NewEgg and read a little bit. I believe I bought my last BenQ from them. |
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Location: East Tennessee | I record thru a Mackie DFX-6 directly into my computer with fairly good results. The DFX-6 has built in reverb.
Should I be using some kind of interface?
I use MAGIX Audio Studio in the computer. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Mike, if it is doing what you want it to do and you are satisfied with your results, then don't change a thing or worry about it.
If you feel the quality of recording is lacking or that you want expanded capabilities, then there are options you can consider. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Just noticed AMS (American Musical Supply) also has the KORG D4 for $199. |
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