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Alex78
Posted 2008-09-26 6:52 PM (#18716)
Subject: Silk & steel...


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Anybody using them? Impressions?

In general, which strings do you use on your Ovation?
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-26 7:00 PM (#18717 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...



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Location: 6 String Ranch
never use them
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Patch
Posted 2008-09-26 7:08 PM (#18718 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...



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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent
They sound great on my Custom Balladeer 12er. I also have a set to put on my 97C next time. They have a very mellow sound that really appeals with finger-picked tunes.
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alpep
Posted 2008-09-26 7:08 PM (#18719 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...


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Location: NJ
they are a unique
I had them on a couple of guitars.

good cross between nylon and steel
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-09-26 7:12 PM (#18720 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...


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Location: Boise, Idaho
I used them in a prior life. They seemed a bit softer, both in the touch and the sound, like Al said.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-09-26 7:32 PM (#18721 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...


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Location: South of most, North of few
Ditto, they sounded great on the 1537 and the UTE. Got some now on the 30CM Legend, and they play very nice.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-09-26 8:15 PM (#18722 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...



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Location: Utah
Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
never use them
Just like Rocky and condominiums.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-09-26 8:21 PM (#18723 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...



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Location: East Tennessee
I use them on my 97 Collectors. Good string for that guitar.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-09-26 8:26 PM (#18724 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...


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Location: Warren,Pa.
The big thing about Silk & Steel strings is that they're lower tension than regular steel strings. This is helpful in certain situations:

-a beginning player who needs a little time and mercy getting their fingertips broken in.
-a guitar that has some sort of compromised structure and wouldn't stand up to the tension of steel strings.
-someone like me who, during the winter months, has trouble playing my 12 string because of arthritis.
-someone looking for a more mellow sound.

Part of that mellow sound is because the lower tension doesn't "load" the guitar top like regular strings. Ovations come with lights, but if you use mediums (more tension) and set-up the guitar for them you get more sound out of it. If you go the other way and use strings with LESS tension you get that mellower sound.

I have used Silk&Steels on my 12's from time to time and the plugged-in sound was not at all diminished compared to other strings. That's using an Ovation p/u and K&K's.

Silk&Steels do seem to tarnish and go dead more quickly than I'd like.

Did that sound a little like a Paul Templeman answer?

John <>{
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-09-26 8:33 PM (#18725 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast
Originally posted by bauerhillboy:
Did that sound a little like a Paul Templeman answer?
...except for leaving out string mass and frequency!


:D
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-09-26 8:55 PM (#18726 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...



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What he said. :D
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Tommy M.
Posted 2008-09-26 9:02 PM (#18727 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...


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They're a bit softer on the fingers, but lose their edge. Their great for beginers
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-09-26 11:13 PM (#18728 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...


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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by bauerhillboy:
Did that sound a little like a Paul Templeman answer?
...except for leaving out string mass and frequency!


:D
in the UK we call them "strings for Poofs"
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-09-26 11:36 PM (#18729 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...


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in the UK we call them "strings for Poofs"

The range on this man is simply undeniable.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-09-26 11:54 PM (#18730 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...



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I used the phosphor bronze stings on my legend for many years and on my W597 adamas. I loved them on the legend, but they sounded too "brassy" on the adamas. I've switched to silk & steels on the adamas and they sound wonderful.

And I'm not a poof!
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-09-26 11:54 PM (#18731 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...



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Location: Sydney, Australia
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Alex78
Posted 2008-09-27 6:02 AM (#18732 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...


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I'm asking because I'm experimenting different strings on my BCS, personally, I think that Ovation are stronger in mid frequencies in comparison with the other guitars, and I never liked phosphor bronze, at all, on a Ovation, they sound very muddy.

D'addario 80/20 seems to give the best "brass" sound,bright string on a dark sounding guitar, but playing some advanced pieces of classical music, like RR's "Dee", "jeaux interdiex", Led Zep's "Bron Y aur" seems almost impossible with these strings, therefore I liked to experiment with a set of silk and steel, D'addario.

They're WHITE, aka silver coated, as far as I understand, like classical guitar strings, the tension was much lower than the brass and I had to work on the truss rod...in general, it seems to me that now the guitar sounds like a classical instrument, but I wanted to have other opinions.
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-27 10:21 AM (#18733 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...



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Wease, I was going to say that but decided not to. How ever I agree with you unless you've got one of BauerHill's points.
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-09-27 10:43 AM (#18734 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...


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Location: Cicero, NY
I stay away from points as much as humanly possible, Beal. Kinda one of those "every man's gotta realize his own limitations" things.
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Erniewan
Posted 2008-09-27 1:09 PM (#18735 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...


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Location: Rocky River, Ohio
try the John Pearse Bronze Silks.

They sound like bronze, but play nice and easy like silks.

they come in light and medium, they are great strings.

Ernie
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PEZ
Posted 2008-09-30 8:16 PM (#18736 - in reply to #18716)
Subject: Re: Silk & steel...



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Location: Nashville TN.
They really warmed up my 1719.
I really like S&S
I also use them on Balladeer 12.
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