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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-29 7:52 PM (#18471)
Subject: Guitar set up


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I'm finding that this year, for the first time, I'm paying attention to the set up of my guitars. When I got my rebuilt 87 C back from the factory, I pulled a shim then tightened the neck about 3/4 of a turn. It plays like a dream.

When I borrowed Noah's 30th CL, the action was good, but the break over the saddle was almost non existant. I brought the saddle up a little and tightened the neck a little over half a turn to bring it back a bit. Action's good and sounds like a million bucks.

Last week, I was playing my 1773LX nylon string and realized that the action was very high and I had never adjusted it. So I pulled a shim out from under the saddle (there were 4 thick shims under there) and brought the neck back a bit (half turn). I may bring it back a little more, but it plays much better now.

What I'm finding is that for me, the saddle height should be where the black rails of the OPP saddle are about even with the front of the bridge. Then the rest of the action can be adjusted by the truss rod (this probably assumes that the guitar is in good shape with no neck problems).

I like action that doesn't buzz but has a good break over the saddle.

What are others thoughts about this stuff? I fully admit that I really have no idea what I'm doing, but I figure that with the small amount I'm adjusting the neck, I can't really screw it up too badly.......


282.... Remember
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-29 7:59 PM (#18472 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up



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Keep it up Paul. Maybe there will ber an opening after Glen's mother leaves.
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-09-29 8:27 PM (#18473 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up


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How are you with brownies, Paul...?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-29 8:42 PM (#18474 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up


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Not exactly the feedback I was looking for.....
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-09-29 9:00 PM (#18475 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Not exactly the feedback I was looking for.....
Normal for us. :D
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-09-29 9:50 PM (#18476 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up



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I like brownies.
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-29 10:44 PM (#18477 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up


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w/macadamias.
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cliff
Posted 2008-09-29 10:45 PM (#18478 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up


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& dark chocolate(d'you need t'write this down?? . . .)
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-09-29 10:46 PM (#18479 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up


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I am one for setting up my guitars meticulously , adjusting nut/neck/saddle is a first , then , " truss adjustment " doing that at least twice a year .

At first as a whole , then according to HUMIDITY , even with O`s , which are known to be rather stable in the truss department.

Change of string-gauge can be another cause.

Using big gauges ( at minimum 12 - 54 ) usually 13 - 56 ( 57 ) , guitars tend to react abruptly , even O`s.

Even my 1537 ( the Very Best git O` ever has made ) , can have the " jitters " when it comes to " Big Bore Gauge " and , Humidity , when ease of Playability is required.

No , I do not suffer of arthrytis , but my fingertips have " soft skin " , so , playability is something that I`m concerned about.

Ye`r not alone Paul :)

Vic

...let`s leave "lack of talent " aside for now... ;)
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-09-29 10:47 PM (#18480 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I like action that doesn't buzz but has a good break over the saddle.
Keep your horse away from the clover and your feet in the stirrups.

Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
What are others thoughts about this stuff?
Sorry, got a buzz myself...

Seriously, keep playing with 'em until your happy. Just don't over do it.
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-30 8:48 AM (#18481 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up



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It's something all the better guys do, run through the set up and adjust as necessary. Guess you're one of the better guys now Paul.
How are the brownies coming?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-09-30 9:15 AM (#18482 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up


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They'll be ready for the next time you and Lorraine come out.....
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Beal
Posted 2008-09-30 11:11 AM (#18483 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up



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10/4
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schroeder
Posted 2008-09-30 11:19 AM (#18484 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up


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10/4 - is that the cookie split twixt you and Mrs K?
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marenostrum
Posted 2008-09-30 11:40 AM (#18485 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up



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Try also this nice reading. After that you fill a little be better. :)
http://www.acousticguitar.com/article/default.aspx?articleid=22188
Riccardo
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-09-30 2:29 PM (#18486 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up



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Originally posted by schroeder:
10/4 - is that the cookie split twixt you and Mrs K?
In my day, that was a recipe instruction. Pharmacologic in nature.
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sycamore
Posted 2008-10-01 9:40 AM (#18487 - in reply to #18471)
Subject: Re: Guitar set up


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:

I like action that doesn't buzz but has a good break over the saddle.
What's the minimum recommended height of saddle over bridge? Am gradually lowering saddle on the AA-31 but there's not much saddle height left...
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