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musicamex
Posted 2002-09-04 4:16 PM (#218450)
Subject: guitar case lid strap


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Location: puerto vallarta, mexico
has anyone come up with a clever, practical or even tricky way to fix that little strap that keeps a guitar case from opening up too far? i have about a dozen that need something done before the hinges suffer. it seems to be a universal problem with cases that survive a decade or two.
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alpep
Posted 2002-09-04 6:59 PM (#218451 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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Location: NJ
bungy cords or duct tape
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2002-09-04 7:31 PM (#218452 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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Location: Scotland
Russ, most of my older cases had the same problem. There must be a better way but in the absence of one here's what I did. I took some inch wide nylon webbing about 3-4 inches long and soaked about a half inch of one end in superglue. Then I slid a knife between the lining of the case and the outer shell to open it up a little, pushed in the webbing & let it set, then did the same with the lid side. Usually lasts a year or two of gigging before the glue fails & it needs to be redone.

Paul

[ September 04, 2002: Message edited by: Paul Templeman ]
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2002-09-04 10:44 PM (#218453 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest
I find this a funny topic. Along the slightly ironic that a company that can make an aircraft that by most physics rules shouldn't even fly.... can't solve the nylon silly-strap issue. My biggest complaint about that strap is not being able to make it go INTO the case when I close it. It always ends up hanging out.
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Bailey
Posted 2002-09-05 1:26 AM (#218454 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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Location: Las Cruces, NM
Miles

A helicopter only looks like it doesn't fit the laws of physics (I almost said violates, but that isn't the apt word). The rotor blades are wings just like on all aircraft, and conform to all the aerodynamic rules. The difficulty in getting them to fly was due to the lift differences between an advancing and a retreating blade as forward motion was attempted, that led to those comical early movies where the aircraft keels over as it begins to fly. Sikorsky, and perhaps others, solved the problem with variable pitch control systems that increase the retreating blade's pitch to compensate. Those spindly looking rotor blades are extremely strong due to centrifugal force, the only problem that can't be solved is the forward speed restriction that causes the craft to keel over if it approaches or exceeds the retreating blade's airspeed, and if the rotor is spun too fast it will tear apart the rotor head as the forces become huge. Just as us guitar players keel over as we approach or exceed our picking speed.

There are other similarities but I won't go into them now.

Bailey ;)
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alpep
Posted 2002-09-05 5:59 AM (#218455 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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Miles
As far as I know Ovation does not make their own cases probably a company like SKB makes them for KMC
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-09-05 8:09 AM (#218456 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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Bailey:
"Sikorsky and perhaps others...?"
How about Charlie Kamnan? As a loyal Ovationist you should know about him.

Of course, from your explaination of how helicopters fly, it's obvious that you know a lot more than me (don't get cocky about it.. most people do). I thought it was magic. Ha!

Actually, that was a pretty interesting discourse on how helacopters fly. I never knew all that and enjoyed reading it. Pretty heady reading for 6:10 am.
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cliff
Posted 2002-09-05 9:43 AM (#218457 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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And here I thought the only person to lose his head over helicopters was Vic Morrow!

(....sorry.)
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PluggdN
Posted 2002-09-05 2:40 PM (#218458 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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Location: Central Texas
Somebody cue the darkness music...
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Bailey
Posted 2002-09-06 2:44 AM (#218459 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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Paul

I mentioned on an earlier post that I thought I had seen a Kaman helicopter at Ft. Eustis in the late 50's as a demonstration for the Army. Fort Eustis became the Army's helicopter training center when me and my dissolute friends who were trained at San Marcos AFB in TX, set up the Army's training school. We had every chopper that the Army owned, and every fixed wing and every so often they would bring in an aircraft that the Army was thinking of buying, which us doggies would finagle a ride in if possible. We ended up at the Sikorsky plant in Bridgeport, CT when the Army bought the H-34, and we had to maintain it, my buddy, who married a rich girl from Hendersonville, NC, and got a brand new 1954 Pontiac Bonneville as a wedding present (envy, envy), twisted the throttle the wrong way on the first one Sikorsky sent us and over revved the engine, disappointing every pilot who showed up to fly it until we got an engine shipped in tootsuite and got it back on line. I've been whapped on the head by a rotor blade gently, ran out of fuel over the James River (got it started before we crashed, pilot forgot to switch tanks, sold my soul to battery gods), flew up VFR to Richmond to see Old Dominion Barn Dance featuring Mac Wiseman.

There's a lie in there somewhere.

Bailey

I had too drive to Richmond to see Mac Wiseman, and it was a great show.

[ September 06, 2002: Message edited by: Bailey ]
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Chuck (Retired Navy)
Posted 2002-09-12 1:13 AM (#218460 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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Posts: 280

Location: Waterloo, IL
From somewhere in the Mediterranean Sea, I would like to know long long the strap is supposed to be. The case for my Balladeer was missing the strap when I bought it, so I have no idea how long to make the strap. It is very difficult for me to get onto the web site right now, so please send me an email separately at badgerc@austin.navy.mil so that I will be sure to see it. Thanks.

Chuck
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bc
Posted 2002-11-22 2:53 PM (#218461 - in reply to #218450)
Subject: Re: guitar case lid strap


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Posts: 17

Location: Colorado
Not to change the subject, but...

I recently used some of those large screw in anchors for sheetrock to repair my trap door on my aging ovation case.

They do not provide very much strength for radial tortion, so you have to be very selective about the screw you use in them. After all it is only foam that it is screwed into. Perhaps some sort of adheasive might do well to be applied on instalation. Be carfull here though as any adheasive which contains triclore might make much foam disapear before your eyes...eh!

Next I will try to repair my lid strap with these things.
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