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History Channel - How It's Made

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DaveKell
Posted 2012-01-19 12:39 PM (#344291)
Subject: History Channel - How It's Made


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I just watched an episode of this show. At the end they had a URL where you can go to suggest new topics about how things are made. I wrote up a good proposal on Ovation guitars. It would be great if I get their attention and it actually materializes. I think it would be a fascinating episode.
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DaveKell
Posted 2012-01-19 12:46 PM (#344292 - in reply to #344291)
Subject: Re: History Channel - How It's Made


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Ihttp://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/6941947648 I made a mistake - it's the Science Channel. You can go to the forum by copying and pasting the URL above and rate the suggestion with a star. The more stars it gets, the more they consider the suggestion. The topic in the forum is called Ovation Guitars.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2012-01-19 12:57 PM (#344293 - in reply to #344291)
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Of course these days they'd have to go to Korea....
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-01-19 1:11 PM (#344294 - in reply to #344291)
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I thought they did Ovation Guitars already on that series.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-01-19 2:25 PM (#344295 - in reply to #344291)
Subject: Re: History Channel - How It's Made



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Thanks for trying to get the word out, Dave. Just a couple of things in your Doscovery post that might need some clarification. The hand laid fiberglass bowls are a different thing than the Lyracord bowls (a formula used to inject into molds), and never seen any thing to indicate they make rotor blades from Lyracord. I'm also pretty sure there is no kevlar used in the construction on any Ovation or Adamas guitars, and don't forget that only the Q used all synthetic materials (which never really went to market).

I tried to rate five stars for you, but it requires giving them personal information and I'm currently on a personal crusade to limit how many people are spamming me.
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Nick B.
Posted 2012-01-19 3:27 PM (#344296 - in reply to #344291)
Subject: Re: History Channel - How It's Made



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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
The hand laid fiberglass bowls are a different thing than the Lyracord bowls (a formula used to inject into molds
According to The Book:

"The fiberglass bowl that formed the back of the Balladeer was also given it's own name: the musical-sounding Lyrachord was chosen and registered as a trade name."

If I read that correctly, both hand laid and injection molded bowls are Lyrachord. Even the earliest Balladeer brochures show them to have Lyrachord bowls, and those were certainly handlaid.
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mbedard
Posted 2012-01-22 1:37 AM (#344297 - in reply to #344291)
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I love that show! But do they only profile Canadian companies? Always seems that way to me. Watch Godin pop up sometime thanks to your idea!
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seesquare
Posted 2012-01-23 2:57 AM (#344298 - in reply to #344291)
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John Ratzenberger does the "Made In America" traveling show, also. I've seen an episode at the Gibson factory, anyway. Maybe they could do an Adamas Custom Shop segment, or a Guild episode, since that seems to be what New Hartford is dedicated to.
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DaveKell
Posted 2012-01-26 2:53 PM (#448768)
Subject: Re: History Channel - How It's Made


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seesquare... I was a pinstriper at the American IronHorse motorcycle factory when Ratzenberger came and profiled us. He was especially fascinated with the airbrushers and pinstripers, and tried his hand at it. We had to clean his work off before it dried. That guy is the same in real life as his Cliff Claven character on Cheers. It was fun.
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alpep
Posted 2012-01-26 7:54 PM (#448769 - in reply to #448768)
Subject: Re: History Channel - How It's Made


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silly to believe everything you read in books
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Nick B.
Posted 2012-01-27 2:13 AM (#448770 - in reply to #448768)
Subject: Re: History Channel - How It's Made



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alpep wrote:
silly to believe everything you read in books


I agree not everything in print is correct, however this 1967 Balladeer Brochure refers to the "Lyrachord" bowl and that was long before they used injection molding.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2012-01-27 2:53 AM (#448771 - in reply to #448768)
Subject: Re: History Channel - How It's Made


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Lyrachord is the fancy name they gave to the fiberglass used. The earliest bowls were hand laid. I'm not certain about the bowls of the 70's but in the early 80's they went to an injection molding. About 10 years ago they started doing the hand laid bowls for special guitars. The new mallable stuff is a new mix of the old mixture.

All that is what I think. The reality of the situation, damned if I know.....
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stonebobbo
Posted 2012-01-27 8:19 AM (#448772 - in reply to #448768)
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About ten years ago they also went to a new formulation and process and called it "glass-microsphere impregnated Lyrachord composite". The bowls were lighter and stronger, and they started appearing on the LX line whith all the new features. I pretty sure that except for the hand-laid ones on the special models, all of the contour bowls are microsphere lyrachord. I remember being able to hold both the new and old bowls at the factory tour way back when, and it was amazing how much lighter and more flexible the MS bowls were than the original injection bowls.
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