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cdarwincole
Posted 2003-04-23 1:39 PM (#209744)
Subject: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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Location: CT, USA
Preacher Deluxe 12-string, early '70's

I'm looking for value advice.

serial number E 9223

Includes original hard shell case

Active electronics with notch filter

Black lacquer finish

Diamond fretboard inlays and faux pearl tuners

Nearly perfect condition (mint all around except one crack in finish on the back)

Thanks! Will probably eBay soon.

Chris (from CT, zip 06762)

P.S. Pictures available upon request
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-04-23 8:29 PM (#209745 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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Location: SoCal
Built around 1975.

Worth $400-$700.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-04-24 6:09 PM (#209746 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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If you mean diamond fretboard inlays like those on a Deacon, then it's unusual. Every P.Deluxe I've seen has fingerboard inlays which are oblong blocks with a little "bite" out of each corner.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-04-24 11:52 PM (#209747 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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I've seen just about every variety of inlay on every neck... I recently went on a search to verify what neck was on the UKII only to find just about every layout had been used. I also found this odd because there were advertised to have the "bowtie" inlays, but I have several and have seen several with dots, diamons and oblongs. I think in later years, if it was a neck, the right scale, and straight... it was attached.
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Shaft
Posted 2003-04-25 1:15 AM (#209748 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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I consider my O priceless. I know some of you buy and sell guitars for profit and that's okay. Me....I find a guitar, a good dog, a great woman...I stick with them. Value in my opinion is what it means to you. I will be holding on to my 1967 Honda Super 90, my 1964 Corvair, my 1975 balladeer, and my 1968 model hot Italian/Irish wife. When you get a good model....my philosophy is hold on to it.
It's not for sale. Okay on a bad day she's for sale but stay away from my guitar, car and motorcycle.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-04-25 7:51 AM (#209749 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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1968 was not a bad year for women, in 1955 some were made that were just perfect. I got one. Wouldn't even trade her for a slothead (most of the time).
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-04-25 3:25 PM (#209750 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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This link seem appropriate for this thread.

www.JokesAndHumor.com
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Bailey
Posted 2003-04-26 1:09 AM (#209751 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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1964 Corvair

I liked the Corvair and just when they had it right with proper suspension, idiot Nader used it to build a career as a professional fright monger, leaving the market for good sports car type design to the rest of the world. "Unsafe at Any Speed" should have been a warning of his lack of technical knowledge and his greed as a shyster lawyer. What we now know of as a modern car we could have been driving in the late 60's except for him.

Glad to hear a few are still running.

Bailey
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cdarwincole
Posted 2003-04-27 12:13 AM (#209752 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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My thanks, gentlemen, especially to Paul and also Paul and to Mr. Ovation (as himself) for their genuinely useful and appropriate responses.

As for the attempt to impugn me on the basis of my apparent lack of loyalty to guitars, I can say only that I do not worship false idols. It is a big universe, full of all manner of guitars and other great stuff, like hydrogen. And Carvin doublenecks, like the one I am about to get delivered. I go through guitars as a fish goes through water: I generally don't hang onto'm for more than ten years or so. See, my guitar inventory grows and changes as I grow and changing musically. Consequently, and sadly, my bank account too often is doing only the changing part, and my studio has not spontaneously gotten bigger, and so I must on occassion ponder the liquidation of musical assets.

And while we are on that subject, my Dad had a Corvair. I thought it was neat. He kept a sandbag in the trunk to improve handling. But--true story--one of my older brother's high school classmates was killed in one in '67 or '68. Wind lifted up the front end and blew it right into oncoming traffic. He was impaled on the non-collapsing steering wheel, and his companion suffered severe brain injuries from smashing into the steel dashboard.

They were coming home from a trip to rent tuxes for the junior prom. Very sad.

But overall, yeah, in spite of a worthy moment or two, Nader is a phony and a shyster. I suppose if he'd been elected, he'd have filed suit against bin Laden for 9/11 and called it a day.

On the same subject, I do not have a dog. I have a cat. I go through cats at about the same pace I go though guitars--ten years, give or take.

Say, you could, like, stuff your dog when he dies, mount'm on a skateboard, and still do he old walk ritual. "Here, boy, fetch! Fetch, boy! C'mon, go get it! Oh, alright already, roll over, then!"

I have had only one wife, fifties vintage, like me. We are both keepers.
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Bailey
Posted 2003-04-28 1:00 AM (#209753 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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cdarwincole

If you have to sell one, this is a good place to start. I'm a solid body Viper owner and a fan of solid bodies, so I enjoy hearing about them.

Sorry to hear about any young early deaths, but many 60's cars were capable of fatal accidents as none of the modern safety features existed. I still believe the Corvair was a step in the right direction, even if it was flawed in it's early designs for a true rear engine design. VW had a swing axle and it was never subjected to a campaign by someone like Nader, Porsche and Corvette were swing axle designs for most of their early life.

Ovation fans should be tolerant of technical experiments.

Good luck with your Preacher 12 string, I'd make you an offer but my finances are in overstressed condition right now.

Bailey
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-04-28 3:16 AM (#209754 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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I learned to drive in a 63 Corvair. My parents bought only Corvairs until Nader did them in (the cars that is). My mom and I were in an accident in one. I was only about 8 or 10 years old. We swerved appearently to get out of someones way and the road was covererd in wet leaves (Fall time of year) and we hit the guard rail head on. The cable cut in all the way to the floor boards, or what would be the firewall if the engine was in front. I heard often in later years that had that been a "normal" car in the same circumstances, we would have had the engine in our lap. I'm not sure about that, but although my moms head hit the windshield (remeber seat belts that only went around the waist?) and I got hit by some flying glass, we both walked away. I still see 63's and 64's on the road and at shows... They must have done something right.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-05-01 8:30 AM (#209755 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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Here's the Preacher 12 that started this thread. Damned if it doesn't have the neck inlays of a Deacon. I've never seen that before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2527909558&category=2384
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-05-01 9:27 AM (#209756 - in reply to #209744)
Subject: Re: value advice, please, on early 70's Preacher 12


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As Miles said, towards the end of production if a neck was the correct scale length it got used. I've seen UK2's with at least 4 different neck styles. The quick way to tell a later production guitar is the Schaller bridge. This P.D.12 has an original Ovation bridge, which makes it an earlier guitar. I suspect this is a rare bird indeed.
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