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Early Breadwinner pickups.

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BruDeV
Posted 2003-05-26 11:42 PM (#208579)
Subject: Early Breadwinner pickups.


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I was cleaning up a couple of old Breadwinner pickups and decided out of curiosity to look inside. The coil is laying on it's side. The pole pieces are L shaped (laying it's side) with the long part of the L running through the coil and the pole screws go though the end of long part (perpendicular to it). The only pickup that I've that's similar is a Gibson Sidewinder (used for the neck pickup on the EB series basses). Must be one of the reasons for the unique sound. Has anyone used the early Breadwinner pickups without the pre-amp? How did it sound?
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innerman
Posted 2003-05-28 6:21 AM (#208580 - in reply to #208579)
Subject: Re: Early Breadwinner pickups.


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Location: Houston, TX
BruDev - totally unrelated: let me know how you like the Urchin. Was that a U60 or U100?

I have a CS-350; I think you'll be surprised if you are not familiar with them already.

Now, no more buying for you.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-05-28 5:37 PM (#208581 - in reply to #208579)
Subject: Re: Early Breadwinner pickups.


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They sound fine without the preamp. The preamp adds the low low's and high high's really stretching the range and possibilities. Without the preamp, they have a nice sound, much like if you centered the tone control on the pre-amp.
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BruDeV
Posted 2003-06-04 1:35 AM (#208582 - in reply to #208579)
Subject: Re: Early Breadwinner pickups.


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intermetroman - Received the second Urchin (a U60-T) today: very good condition except for missing one of the dodads on the points (whatever they're called (bumpers?)) and a DIRTY fingerboard. The CS-350 is only so-so; a lot of finish worming and the nut and tuners need replacing, frets are good though. Sounds good.
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innerman
Posted 2003-06-06 1:03 AM (#208583 - in reply to #208579)
Subject: Re: Early Breadwinner pickups.


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BruDev - I picked up a CS-350 from a pawn shop about 5 years ago. At that time I didn't know much about Matsumoku, but I was impressed with the feel, sound, and features - and the $150 price tag. The first time I changed the strings, one of the individual bridge saddles broke in two. I couldn't find comparable saddles that were tall enough to rise above the pick-ups, so it sat in the corner for awhile (while I acquired a UKII and a Preacher). I found a guy that did some great bench work on my '66 Gibson ETC-125, and he came through with a bridge from AllParts with a little shim work and an angled drilling that meets up with the string-through holes. It's perfect now. Beware those soft saddles.

So, are you dealing or do we just have similar tastes in underground, well-made guitars?

Have you seen or played a Westone Padauk II? I've never played one, but they look interesting. Right now I seem to gravitating toward the natural, wood-grain, neck-through stuff - with lots of electronic bells and whistles. Like the Thor and Rev.
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BruDeV
Posted 2003-06-06 11:28 PM (#208584 - in reply to #208579)
Subject: Re: Early Breadwinner pickups.


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Those saddles are strange aren't they? I had a similar problem with another guitar. I wound up putting a slab of brass under a normal tail-piece. I made it a little larger then the bridge and beveled the edges, it turned out pretty good. I'm not a dealer (although I'm open to offers), I just buy whatever catches my interest. The latest big project is building an aluminium body Tele with a graphite neck.
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-07 3:02 AM (#208585 - in reply to #208579)
Subject: Re: Early Breadwinner pickups.


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Brudev

Dont mess with the Tele. Some things are OK as they are.
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alpep
Posted 2003-06-07 5:32 AM (#208586 - in reply to #208579)
Subject: Re: Early Breadwinner pickups.


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bailey
I have a tele project going on currently.
scalloped warmouth neck
chandler body
sperzel tuners
voodoo pickups
hipshot b bender
still deciding on how to get it painted.
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-08 3:24 AM (#208587 - in reply to #208579)
Subject: Re: Early Breadwinner pickups.


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Sorry

I was just reminiscing about the early Buck Owens bands. The tele was their identity, and I didn't realize that until they were gone. I'm looking forward to you guys improvement on those early bands. I think the Merle Haggard bands played the earlier "flawed" teles also. Merle, and his guitar player, has one with a beautiful through neck that somebody built for them. Ernest Tubb stuck the Tele into country, and we didn't know where that sound was coming from. Improve it as much as you can, you will probably end up with a guitar that nobody recognizes.

Bailey (the Tele built country)
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