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Why Adamas Slothead ????
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| Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6202 Location: Phoenix AZ | There has been so much talk on these pages about the wonderful Adamas Slothead, but I've never seen the most obvious question addressed. WHY were the pre-tooling Adamas built as Slotheads and WHY was it changed to a flat peghead once they went into production ??? Dave | ||
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| willard |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 1300 Location: Madison, Wisconsin | It seems I remember something about the angle of the peghead to the neck and that the slotheads were not as strong. It might have been a dream but I thought it came up on the tour. | ||
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| alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | cwk mentioned the angle of the peghead related to the sound. I am not real sure why they decided on non slotheads for the production run | ||
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| Bluebird |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | As I recall, cwk2 it was mentioned that the original slothead was considerably more labour intensive, sending the production costs through the roof and production numbers conversly into the basement, thus the new design. Wayne | ||
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| Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6202 Location: Phoenix AZ | Wayne, If I recall, I think the comment was that the hand carved wooden headstocks (on the flat peghead) were cost prohibitive, hence they went to the foam stick-on versions. But I don't think it was clear why the earlier change from slot to flat peghead (both hand carved wooden). And I don't think the headstock angle is any different between the two (both 7 degrees). The actualy string angle on a slotted one will be steeper, but I don't think that makes it more prone to breakage problems. Slotted headstocks are alive and well in many high end guitars (Ovation and others) and I'm just still curious why Ovation abandoned this for their flagship model at the time. Dave | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | As I understand it the original slothead design was used by Chuck McDonough simply because it looked good. The fact that slotheads may be better from an acoustic standpoint was a side issue. The design was changed to a solid headstock becauase it's easier & cheaper to produce. Marcel Dadi owned a slothead which was obviously a later solid headstock design but adapted as a slothead. Hey, that gives me an idea........... | ||
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| samova |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 970 Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Marcel had a couple of slotheads.One was areal one,the other was a modified slot head neck with a cutaway body..There may have been another in his collection.. http://www.ovationfanclub.com/gallery/_mar.jpg | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15686 Location: SoCal | Marcel had a number of Adamii, all of which I've seen, were slotheads. What was interesting was that many of them were cutaways and had non symetrical sound holes and epalets. I have no doubt that Ovation would build whatever he wanted. | ||
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| Bluebird |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Hi Dave, this is a cut/past of the cwk2 post I refered to, which refered to a number of changes other than the headstock carving. Wayne cwk2 Member Member # 7 posted March 18, 2003 04:49 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- to correct a small point. The Slothead was not preproduction tooling. When we started them it was full steam ahead! However after a few months it becams clear that the costs were through the ceiling and there had to be some changes. So that's why production stopped and it was redesigned. It ran for about a year and was down for about a year. That's when the kbar came in and the different neck attachment and the foam scroll, a different design on the outside of the ring and all the rest. -------------------- dubyatoo The thread. | ||
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| Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6202 Location: Phoenix AZ | Did the original slotheads not have the k-bar? | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15686 Location: SoCal | I went back and read thru the threads on this and can now give you a highly intelligent and sophisticated response..... Nope. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Paul T, in your 8:35 post you've got it spot on. Paul M, you've detected it correctly as well, what ever Marcel wanted he got, in the beginning. Towards the end he didn't and it took alot longer to make the special orders... | ||
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Why Adamas Slothead ????