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Location: Warren,Pa. | I have an '02 CL 12string with a factory-applied oil finish on the neck. I love the look of the wood, but I'd like to "speed up" the neck a little. When I change strings (Elixers every 2 months or so), I apply lemon oil to the fingerboard and the back of the neck. Using my experience with woodworking/finishing, I'm thinking of applying Tung Oil to the back of the neck, repeating the process enough to achieve the "slipriness" I want. Any thoughts??? John <>{ |
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Location: NJ | Perhaps repeated applications/buffings of Butcher's Wax?? |
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Location: Florida | Tung Oil...
There is Tung Oil and then again, there is Tung Oil.
The Home Depot, Formby's etc is NOT Tung oil. It polyurethane with some tung oil in it, perhaps some additives to help with the flow out and to keep the gloss down - to APPROXIMATE (poorly I might add) a tung oil finish.
REAL tung oil is a joy and pleasure to use, has a distinctive nutlike smell and thick milky amber consistancy. The finish dries hard if you apply it thinly (as it ought to be). But it takes a good month to fully dry.
I've used both, and the latter is the preferable way to go, but I dont think I'd use it on an Ovation neck.
Try Butcher's, Boston Polish, or even good ol' Mothers or MacGuires or Turtle Wax.
FWIW, I use Turtle Wax synthetic (in the bright lizard puke green bottle) on my laquier guitars, and its by far the best there.
I've found the Ovation neck pretty nice to play as opposed to those laquer finished Strat and Tele necks which are full gloss, but have that tacky feel with the least moisture/perspiration. Thats where the Turtle wax really comes in handy, and makes the neck feel more like a PU finished gloss neck. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Charlie B,
I always went for a "carnuba" wax for autos. would that hold true on the necks as well? |
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Location: Central Oregon | I use Turtle Wax on my oil finish necks whenever they start to feel slow. Works great.
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Location: Warren,Pa. | Thanks folks. So far, based on all scientific responses to my question, "Turtle Wax synthetic in bright lizard puke green bottle" sounds best. John <>{ |
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Location: Florida | I think they call the BLPG bottle stuff X2000 or something. It even works well on my truck! AND it works great on the top of the Adamas too...!! |
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Location: Florida | Ok, out to the garage I went. Its called 2001 wax.
Keep in mind that on an Ovation neck, its gonna give you little white streakies, since its gonna fill that grain and turn white. I only use that stuff on smooth finishes, but it works well there.
The local mom-n-pop hardware had some Boston Polish and I've used that on the neck of the O. It really made the back of the headstock shine. Not sure if I like the feel of that wax as well though. |
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Location: Ct./ USA | Necks are my thing @ "O", so I will stick my Kneck out here. Sand with 220 grit, 400 grit sand paper, steel wool, and some danish oil and GO TO TOWN. You have to break the oil finish with the grain on the neck with some 220 grit paper,then sand with the 400 grit, buff with steel wool (oil or no oil,just no brillo pad!) then add the danish oil, let it dry apply many many times, steel wool agin, then apply a wax of your choice, or bring it to the detail shop and I would love to make that ax shine. Since you have some woodworking experience ya gotta know what I mean. |
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Location: Florida | Adamas72,
What is the standard neck finish thats applied these days on non-gloss necks.
Is that a "danish oil" or is it a dull polyurethane type finish? |
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Location: Ct./ USA | A coat of danish oil is applied to the raw sanded neck after hand sanding with a fine grit high quality sandpaper.( applied for inspection)
The production manager is responsible for the current application of additional danish oil and poly waxes, although I have finished oiled necks with 3 coats of danish and 6 coats of poly-urathang with dry times between coats. The best finish includes steel wool to buff between coats.
It is a common operation for finishing furniture. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | C'mon people
I have played in bluegrass bands for years where speed was the essence, and never once have I noticed the neck finish unless it had splinters. Do what is right for good maintenance, but don't expect speed to come from some polish bottle, it comes from playing, and playing, and playing, and playing, and maybe even practicing,although I wouldn't reccommend the latter.
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Location: Warren,Pa. | Hate to say it, Bailey, but as I "advance" in age I need little tricks like this to help me along. "A man's got to know his limitations." John <>{ |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | By the way...I guess I knew some people LIVE in NM, but what is there to DO? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | "By the way...I guess I knew some people LIVE in NM, but what is there to DO? "
Get on the internet and provide "Sage" advice :rolleyes: |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | bauerhillboy
As an old Conneaut, OH native born there and raised on a dairy farm, left at 17, travelled all over the country, went home in 1956, fell in love, got married, went to Gannon College in Erie, PA and Kent University, went to San Diego with 3 kids in 1962, worked 17 years in nucleur industry with 4 kids, formed bluegrass club and played a lot, got sick of CA in 1980 and came here, played a lot of bluegrass/country with my son here. Built the High Energy Laser Site as a contractor employee, quit and ran our own computer training business, went back into construction and built a bunch of beautiful stuff in El Paso, Retired with a terrible disgust of people who only bitch and never contribute to life. If all you can do is point out how others are worse than you, society will devolve to the lowest denominator.
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Sorry, I was tired and I didn't read my post before posting. I didn't mean that last comment to apply to anybody here. The board members, IMHO, tend to be very positive, that's why I like it here.
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Location: Warren,Pa. | My life has been somewhat similar, Bailey. Lived in Jersey till I was 32, couldn't stand it anymore. Moved to NW Pa.(big green spot on the map) where things are not affected by the NY economy(or anything else for that matter). We're in the slow lane now, and LOVING IT! We do have 10 months of winter, though...would love to come to NM next winter for a visit! John <>{ |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | John
You'd love it. We have the isolation AND some pretty decent weather, mountains, plains, desert and we're at over 4000 ft elevation with mountains to 10,000 or more. We are home of the last of the range wars (Lincoln County, with Billy the Kid and Pat Garrett) and the last of the Indian uprisings, (Geronimo, and other Apaches who now have a beautiful Casino on their reservation up in the Sacramento Mtns). Some of the buildings are over 300 years old as this place was bustling with the Spanish before our revolution, El Paso brags about a Thanksgiving celebration by the Spanish settler, Onate, at a Rio Grande crossing in 1589. I believe, predating the Pilgrims by some years. The Americans conquered Santa Fe in 1846, and the Confederates lost it in 1862 at Glorieta Pass (the Gettysburg of the West according to some historians). The Spanish travelled the El Camino Real a mile from my house from Chihuahua to Santa Fe, and the 49'rs crossed El Paso from east to west on their way to CA.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | New Mexico is great. So totally different from anything in the east. I was out there once on a golf course and saw this big hawk fly over head, maybe 100' up. I heard this funny russeling sound, like starchy fabric rubbing together. Finally figured out it was the wind going through the feathers, that's how quite it was out there. Wonderful place. |
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Location: NJ | Had a great time out there two years ago.
Flew into Albequerque, drove along the Turquoise Trail into Santa Fe, spent a day in Bandolier, and then on up into Colorado. Wish I'd had more time to spend there. Have to go back. Awesome scenery!! |
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Location: Warrenton, Virginia | Baily I like this conversation. I would say "the older the violin..sweeter the music". I love the west...Sante Fe, Taos,....Phoenix etc. I've lived all over as well. Retired from the Air Force in 96'. Continue to work with the government....I currently live in a nice area in Warrenton, VA....But the traffic going into DC is the worst...and takes so much energy away. I hope to "pull chocks" here when my last 2 kids finish college.
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Sam
I love Virginia also, I spent some years there in the 50's at Ft. Eustis, just down the road from Williamsburg, went to William and Mary while I was there, Summers hot, spring and fall beautiful, winter unpredictable. I was young and it was my first long stay outside of Ohio and I also visited my Mother's home town in Sutton, West Virginia from there for the first time and crossed the Blue Ridge Mtns. Convoyed from there to Louisiana in duece and a halfs for a Air Mobile exercise that tested today's air mobile Army tactics as a helicopter mechanic. Stopped at every segregated state in the south each night on the way down, they let us visit New Orleans for the night we were there, I still have a deed to one square foot of De Ridder, LA bought at a high school rally.
THT SOUTH IS GOING TO RISE AGAIN!!
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