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seesquare
Posted 2004-05-24 10:36 AM (#186956)
Subject: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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I stand in awe of my OFC brethren, Mr. Templeman & Mr. Moody. They told me my 1111 (BTW, in the gallery) appeared to be an amalgum of a '60's neck and an '80's body. Based on this ebay listing, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33029&item=3726072080&rd=1, they appear to be right!
Kudoes, all around!
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-05-24 11:00 AM (#186957 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES



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Most of the people named "Paul" on this board seem to really know there stuff.
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seesquare
Posted 2004-05-24 11:01 AM (#186958 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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Jeez, the more I looked at that auction item; MAN, that's a real antique! The rosette is a dead giveaway. And the label inside the body looks real different, too.
Maybe I need to mortgage my soul, or something......oh boy, do I have GAS!!!!!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-05-24 11:15 AM (#186959 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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Beautiful guitar. For O players, a definite collectors item. I love the wood grain on the neck. Keep in mind that the seller said there were some cracks in the face. It might need to go to the factory for some work.

On another note, an Artist Balladeer just sold on ebay for $260. I bought my first one in 1972 for $295. They haven't gone done that much over 30 years.

Of course, at that price, there's not much room to go down.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-24 11:45 AM (#186960 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES



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I'll trade you some 2004 dollars for those 1972 dollars any day Paul! In 1972 rich people lived in $50K houses and drove $10K automobiles.

That is a distinct looking Ovation! Looks like the Sock Monster is letting one out into the daylight.

Would the soundboard be 2 each halves or three piece? If it's been in the case that long do you think the bowl is good and smelly? A "summer of 68" bouquet no less!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-05-24 11:49 AM (#186961 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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It was built in mid to late 1968 which is about the time Ovation went from a 3 to a 2 piece top. Odds are that it's a 2 piece top, but I can't tell of looking at it. Kinda looks like a three piece.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-24 12:19 PM (#186962 - in reply to #186956)
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Very curios instrument. It would be fascinating to be able to play it and hear what it has to say for itself! My guess is three piece on the top.

It's a pity that few that look at it will realize what a piece of history it is, maybe!

Good find.
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seesquare
Posted 2004-05-24 12:33 PM (#186963 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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So, a new idea: Start a syndicate to buy these unique instruments. We can construct a Left Coast Museum & Gallery, host tours, and generally become profligate, but virtuous!
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-24 1:02 PM (#186964 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES



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I'm going to have to look up pro-lift-gate! But virtuous - those 3 piece sound boards were destined to be made into war machines but became guitars instead! Of course the bowls were probably headed to be Corvettes or T-birds!
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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2004-05-24 1:04 PM (#186965 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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Dave's right. Guys named Paul really know Ovations. (lol) :p
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cliff
Posted 2004-05-24 1:10 PM (#186966 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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Actually, he said MOST people named Paul . . .
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-05-24 3:37 PM (#186967 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES



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"So, a new idea: Start a syndicate to buy these unique instruments. We can construct a Left Coast Museum & Gallery"

Seesquare - It already exists in Phoenix AZ (ha ha). And yes I did say "most" Pauls ...

The guitar is question is identical to one that I own (see gallery). Yes, it's very nice and a good piece of history. But sonically, it seems to come up just short of the Deluxe and Glen Campbell models of the same era, but that's just my opinion. As far as 2 piece top vs. 3 piece I've got identical guitars (Deluxe Balladeers) of each type and honestly can hear no difference between them.
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seesquare
Posted 2004-05-24 3:59 PM (#186968 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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Thanks, Dave. That triangulates the issue pretty well. As for value, it's the same story: whatever the market will bear. I hope it goes to someone who appreciates the history. I don't guarantee I can generate the scratch I'm sure will be required.
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seesquare
Posted 2004-05-28 11:09 AM (#186969 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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So, Dave, you sly dog. Got that early Balladeer, comparatively, "for a song". Hopefully, won't require a lot of repair or refurbishment. As the "Left Coast Curator", it couldn't have gone to a better place! Congrats!!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-05-28 11:32 AM (#186970 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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Dave's got GAS baaaaadddd.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-05-28 11:56 AM (#186971 - in reply to #186956)
Subject: Re: 1-900-CLEVERDUDES


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Don't We All??!! Yep!! :D
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