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John Lawrence
Posted 2004-06-09 10:30 AM (#185636)
Subject: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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I was at The Guitar Center in Manchester, CT buying a Hal Leonard music book and on the wall was a "used" no brand indicated cutaway natural finish (wooden not lyrachord or carbon fiber) ROUNDBACK for sale at $1,499? I played it for a couple of minutes and it sounded different but not quite the "O" sound I'm used to hearing. Nice playing and sounding none the less (but not like my Legend LX which I like better).

Anyway, the manager didn't know much about it except it came from their central S&H center along with some Balladeers and a couple of new LX's amongs the usual Gibsons, Fenders, etc. Is this the infamous Ovation employee built one of a kind guitar I heard about in some earlier strings on this website?? Or does anyone know what this guitar might be....very curious? Play on!

John L.

Std. Balladeer
Legend LX
Celebrity C026
Tornado
Martin D16GT
Takamine 12 String
Fender P-Bass
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-09 10:31 AM (#185637 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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it may be an alvarez
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-09 11:11 AM (#185638 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?



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I believe that these is them:
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-09 12:29 PM (#185639 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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No.
That is a custom job that was built and is owned by an Ovation employee. It was up on the block once, but for a pretty substantial amount of coin. There is only one of 'em and NO WAY would it have sold for that little.

Al's right.
It was probably an Alvarez.
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John Lawrence
Posted 2004-06-09 1:36 PM (#185640 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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That looks like the puppy I saw. Learn something new everyday........the Alvarez guitars I've seen weren't like that. But then again my guitar knowledge has been limited to Gibsons, Fenders, Ovations, Takamine's and Martins. Anything much outside of that and it's a whole new world for me. Thanks for the info. But how in hell do they build 'em like that?? Guess, that's another story! : ) Play on!

John L.

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Legend LX
Celebrity C026
Tornado
Takamine 12 String
Martin D16GT
Fender P-Bass
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-09 1:59 PM (#185641 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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I for once am wrong. the guitar he saw was kevin's, it is my understanding he traded it for other gear.
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-09 3:18 PM (#185642 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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Wow!
That's really surprising that it went for that cheap.
I remember it as being a really nice piece of work . .
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-09 3:45 PM (#185643 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?



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From a renown American philosopher:

"Ovation Guitars really don't get the respect they deserve!"

Neither do the Artists that inspire them.
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luthier444
Posted 2004-06-10 3:22 PM (#185644 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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no Actually they gave me 2500$ and the selling price is 4999$. If they are selling it for 1499. They are losing money
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Northcountry
Posted 2004-06-13 4:53 PM (#185645 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?
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Well Whomever Luthier444 is Nice work! I am curious? How thick did you have to go to keep the wood intact? Great looking guitar! Randy
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luthier444
Posted 2004-06-13 7:37 PM (#185646 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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The rosewood was sanded to 80 thths of an inch then steam bent over a mold. Muslin keeps the inside strong and poly keeps the outside strong.


I wonder how old the strings are on that thing. Must sound like dirt
Have to go change them LOL

By the way the mold was an Ovation bowl LOL
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Northcountry
Posted 2004-06-13 7:58 PM (#185647 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?
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Fantastic look! Nice work! Did you use resin on the cloth to bind it? This must sound very good! What If I may ask did you do to reinforce the neck placement? solid wood block? To be honest I wonder how hard it would be to place this wood covering over the plastic backs as the are now? some epoxy resin and patience I'll bet this could be done without the incredible luthier work you have done on this? Randy From one woodworker to another this is quite a job! must have been hard to let it go? There are some real artists and guitarists on this list! Thanks again
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luthier444
Posted 2004-06-13 8:05 PM (#185648 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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The entire guitar was glued with titebond except the fingerboard over top. Titebond and muslin work well together. Ya it was hard to sell and think about buying it back but I have enough guitars. I needed money so I sold it for a fraction of what it was appraised at. Which I wont tell you. But thats why guitar center bought it for 2500$ Lots of paper work with the guitar,..

Laying veneer over the Lyrichord isnt my thing.Make it out of wood or not.

Oh the neck block is Black walnut shaped like a mouth. So when the top arches in the summer the block swells and raises the neck angle to compensate. Believe it or not.


Thanks for the praise. That guitar almost killed me hehehe
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Northcountry
Posted 2004-06-13 8:33 PM (#185649 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?
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I know an overlay is the whimpy way out but I'll bet it would look pretty nice with some care? Nice to see what some of you guy's can do if the mood strikes you! Very Impressive do another! I'll bet some of these guy's may want a custom made ! I do but I just bought a Ric Bass and a GK 700w bass system and upgraded my peavey acoustic amp no cash what-so-ever now Randy
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-14 1:28 AM (#185650 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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kevin used an old method of making bowl back mandolins on this guitar. it was very nice.

He is a twisted sorta genius....I like that!!
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-06-14 11:25 AM (#185651 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?



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Checked with the GC - price is $4,999. They didn't accept my $1,499 offer :( :(
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-14 11:34 AM (#185652 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?



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Tony,

Offer them $49.99 next!

I tend to have SSD or sticker shock dyslexia myself. That would make a lovely display/show piece for any Store or collection.

It should at least be incuded with the "Babe test" I heard alluded to earlier!
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John Lawrence
Posted 2004-06-14 12:17 PM (#185653 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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That is the guitar.....when I played it I ddin't inquire on price but you are right it is $4,999 but the handwritten price tag was done in magic marker. The 1 looked like a 4 or vice versa. I didn't ask the price because I already have another "special order" blue colored Ovation Balladeer LX coming from Al P. in the next two months. So whether is or was $1,499 or $4,999 it is not in the cards right now for me. Never the less it is one hell of nice guitar and whomever buys it will be getting a unique instrument that will only appreciate in dollars and sense!!! : ) Play On!

John L.

Std. Balladeer
Legend LX
Celebrity C026
Tornado
Takamine 12 String
Martin D16GT
Fender P-Bass
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-06-14 1:55 PM (#185654 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?



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They have it listed as a Michael Clark if anyone calls the Manchester GC.

Will say that the manager and Mike Dee (except for Mike calling me "Dude") were very helpful.

If anyone is interested, Mike did ask if I was interested if I could save $1,500 - in other words, possibly $3,500.

I agree, a very nice instrument...good job Kevin.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-14 2:16 PM (#185655 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?



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Tony, dude!

It's like, you are from San Diego (pronounced Sand'-ee-yay-gow.

So like, what-ever!


Actually Tony - next time someone plops a "dude" into a conversation just retaliate with "Sweet" and "Cha-a-a (Yes)" or even "Tubular".

They'll quit first. Every time.

Very nice guitar - it will look nice beside the EJ CL12-5!
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-14 2:47 PM (#185656 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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Have this guy from one of our Texas offices that comes out to NY from time to time to work on specific shows. Would constantly call me "dude".
Nobody ELSE . . . . just me. After about six months of this, I quietly took him aside, put my arm over his shoulder and told him that I thought that he was a REALLY nice guy, and that I really liked him, but if he ever called me "dude" again I would have absolutely no alternative but to tear off his head and shit down his neck.

Worked.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-14 2:54 PM (#185657 - in reply to #185636)
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Sweet!
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luthier444
Posted 2004-06-14 3:34 PM (#185658 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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Sorry for the confusion. Its suppose to be
"K. Michael Clark". I didnt want to use my first name . There are too many Kevin Clarks out there. Thanks Al for the words.

I Only remember being called Psychotic once.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-06-14 3:45 PM (#185659 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?


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Many a fine artist has been called Psychotic at least once. They usually have other words when reffereing to me though... I wonder why that is? :D
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-06-14 3:47 PM (#185660 - in reply to #185636)
Subject: Re: Wood Ovation Roundbacks?



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NAWW, I can feel their pain when I retort with "Marvey~~"
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