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cliff
Posted 2004-06-29 7:00 PM (#184069 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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". . go on stage without my pants, . . . . . nothing. . . "


. . . so I've heard, . . . my sympathies to Susan.

yes, "working" late . . . . . on some ^*%#$*&^%*&^# CD Cover Art . . . . . . .
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Beal
Posted 2004-06-29 7:03 PM (#184070 - in reply to #184044)
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Make sure to post then pictures in the photo section for us all to enjoy.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-29 7:07 PM (#184071 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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Cliff, tenuous......... very tenuous and in fact a little lame. I have come to expect a much higher standard of abuse from you. I think you should go away and think very carefully about that last post and only come back when you can edit it to a satisfactory level of offensiveness.
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-29 7:11 PM (#184072 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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well then, how about this:

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cliff
Posted 2004-06-29 7:14 PM (#184073 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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. . . . don't fuck with me, Templeman . . . . . . . .
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-29 7:19 PM (#184074 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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Cliff, you are the master, I bow to your greatness. From a discussion on coated strings to exposing me to the world as a gusset-sniffer in a handful of posts. In the words of the great bard........... C@*T
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-06-29 9:59 PM (#184075 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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Going BACK to the topic from this delightful(?) diversion.....

I, too, once put .010-.047 Polyweb Elixirs on the CC01 Celebrity I used to own...and I HATED them with a passion. Sounded terrible initially...I played them in, they still sounded terrible....I played them for a week, they never improved, and I finally couldn't take it anymore and removed them in favor of Martin SPs, which always sounded good on my CC01.

I usually use D'Addario Phosphor Bronzes on my Os, although I am going to try EXPs as I have had good results with the sets on the new Ovations I've bought. Nanoweb Elixirs may well be different and better than Polyweb, but I'm reluctant to try them when the D'Addarios work for sure.

Interesting from Paul T's note that Elixirs start out as D'Addarios.....

Roger
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George
Posted 2004-06-29 10:01 PM (#184076 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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I just played a gig with Elixer Nano's on my '81 Adamas II which have been on it for over a month (play the guitar every day) and the audience remarks were that it sounded great. I was plugged in to my Peavey Ecoustic amp only. The strings are fraying where I pick and feel fine for fingering. I'm relatively new to Elixer's and hear all the changes you are finding from initial sound, to the "new" bright sound for about two weeks , then a gradual mellowing out which hasn't peaked out yet on these. Man, I've got to say I like 'em..they seem to add a certain "character" to the Big Ovation Sound.
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Northcountry
Posted 2004-06-30 7:10 PM (#184077 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)
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Glad you posted this note. I am thinking of buying a set of these Nanoweb Elixirs for my bass? They are around $40 and I do not want to get strings I do not like and then have them last and last for a year or more? My delema is they have the correct gauge I am looking for and the other companies do not seem to have the choices I want? I was wondering if the coating helps with any of the finger squeak noises we all try to avoid but always get from time to time? For my Acoustics it is the Adamas strings I can really tell the difference in good or bad strings on my 12 string that thing sings with the Adamas's! Thanks Randy
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LoJoe
Posted 2004-06-30 9:10 PM (#184078 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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Their bass strings are about the same as their guitar strings. The Polywebs are slick and greasy smooth feeling, but a bit dull right off the bat. The Nanowebs feel more like uncoated strings and are almost as bright right out of the pack. They are both coated nickelwounds. Both last a lonnnnnnnnng time, although with either you will see some coating fuzz in the finger picking area after awhile. The E and A will dull down before the D and G though so if you leave them on for an extensive amount of time you may have a balance issue. I went back to SIT long scales for my G&L. You may want to check out Just Strings as they carry many different brands of bass strings in short scale and long scale of all guages, materials, roundwound and flatwound.
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zchord
Posted 2004-06-30 10:34 PM (#184079 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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I like Elixirs. I am also enjoying the EXP's that are on my 1778T.
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Slap
Posted 2004-07-01 12:03 AM (#184080 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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George pointed them out to me...and I put them on 1 week after I got my LX..which was in April...played 2 gigs with them...they are fogin up abit now...but still have lasted longer than anything I've used before...

so far...I like them... and plan to put another set on next week

thanks George!.....
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Strummin12
Posted 2004-07-01 12:04 PM (#184081 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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I've had an odd experience with coated strings, though I've never tried the elixer brand.

When I was gigging regularly in the last few years, I was making near weekly trips to the guitar shop for strings ( I put new sets on all strings prior to each show). They got in D'Adario coated strings free with the regular strings shipment, so he gave me about 6 sets to try for free, both 12 and 6 strings sets.

They were much "deader" than the EJ16 & Ej38s I usually use, but weren't aweful sound-wise. The problem I had was that they did not hold their tuning, nearly a week or so after putting them on. They behaved like strings that are SO old they don't tune well anymore. Tuning by ear was very difficult, and if I tuned with a tuner, they'd be out again by the end of a song. I tried several sets and had the same experience each time.

Maybe that's why they were free! No one else I've spoken to ever had this experience, so maybe I just had a bad batch or something. It was just weird, but I'm certainly not gonna spend $20+ a set to find out if it was a one batch thing-plus that fraying of the coating was B.S.

Johnny
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Nils
Posted 2004-07-02 2:03 AM (#184082 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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I like 'em.

/\/\/
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Bailey
Posted 2004-07-02 2:54 AM (#184083 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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Guys and Gals

I kinda hate to mention this, Most of the sound comes from the players ability, I think Doc Watson could play on baling wire and sound like Doc Watson. Obsession with equipment is the last refuge of the picker who has reached his limit like the patriot who sleeps in the flag. Every astounding player I have known picked up any thing that was near by and suddenly made it sound like a million dollars after a short tuning session. I have jammed with some of the best Stuart Duncan, Jody Maphis, etc. and none gave a s--t about their strings, they borrowed an instrument from a person in the crowd and sounded as good as always.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-07-02 3:10 AM (#184084 - in reply to #184044)
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yes, but some of us need all of the help we can get...kind of like always buying the newest, greatest putter in golf. also good for the economy.

a good sounding and pretty guitar, good strings, etc, can be inspiring and make us excel beyond our perceived abilities...at least after a little Brandy or Scotch.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2004-07-02 5:59 AM (#184085 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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A little story I heard from a recording engineer.....Chet Atkins was in the studio playing a guitar, And someone said to him "Chet, that guitar sounds REALLY GREAT!" Chester gets this annoyed look on his face, puts the guitar down and says "how does it sound NOW!"
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2004-07-02 6:09 AM (#184086 - in reply to #184044)
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AND ANOTHER THING... I use Elixer polywebs. I play my CL12string mostly, and the major factor for me is reduced string squeak on all those strings. I primarily play 2nd guitar in the worship team...always strong rhythm. I'm just a strummer anyway. I guess in my situation the other nuances are just not that important. I like the slippery feel. John <>{
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Erniewan
Posted 2004-07-02 6:19 AM (#184087 - in reply to #184044)
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I like the Elixir strings...never tried the nanowebs though...my thing is if I get super busy (usually in the summer I don't play the guitar as often), the coating on the strings keep them from oxidizing. I might try the nanos next.

My brother who is an accomplished player loves the EXP coated strings much better then the Elixirs. I was going to try them, but they only had mediums in stock at GC....

Does anybody sell coated Classical strings for the 3 wound strings?

thanks

ernie
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-07-02 7:39 AM (#184088 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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Bailey,

I agree with you and I'm rather surprised nobody has mentioned "The Master's Touch"
The Master's Touch
Public Domain

It was battered and scarred
and the auctioneer thought it scarcely worth his while
to waste much time on the Old Violin but he held it up with a smile.

"What am I bid Goodfolks?" he cried. "Who'll start the bidding for me?"
It was "a dollar... a dollar.... then two"... only two.
"Two dollars and who'll make it three?"
"Three dollars once - Three dollars twice - And going for three"
But No!...
From the room far back,
a gray-haired man came forward and picked up the bow.
And wiping the dirt from that old violin...
and tightening the loosened strings...
You know, He played a melody pure 'n sweet, as the carillon angels sing.

Well, the music stopped,
and the auctioneer in a voice that was quiet and low...
Said: "What am I bid for the Old Violin?" And He held it up with the bow.
"A thousand dollars! Who'll make it two?
Two thousand! Who'll make it Three?"
It was "three thousand once"... "three thousand twice"...
and "Going for three!" said he.

Well, the people stared...
But some of them cried: "We do not quite understand!"
"What changed it's worth?"
Swift came the reply... "It was the Touch of the Master's Hand."

***


I love new strings and usually change them every 10 days or so www.webstrings.com has them for under $3.00/set)... but I don't like the slippery feel nor the $$$ of the Elixirs.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-07-02 8:18 AM (#184089 - in reply to #184044)
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All of this just underscores a point I made earlier, that strings are a very personal matter. There is no right or wrong answer as to what string is best.

Both Bailey and Roger were correct. If you're a master it doesn't make any difference what kind of strings you use (but then why are there are the string ads with people like Tony Rice, pushing a particular type of string?) but for most of us (as Roger pointed out), we need all the help we can get.

By the way, somebody in this thread asked if somebody makes a coated string for classicals. Elixir does. I tried them and hated them. The wound strings were just too bright for the rest of the guitar. But that was for the way I play, using a pick with nylon strings. Somebody using fingers on their nylon strings might feel differently.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-07-02 3:09 PM (#184090 - in reply to #184044)
Subject: Re: Elixir strings (sorry guys...)


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I generally like the Phosphor Bronze Strings , But I also Like The EXP's that came with My 1858.
When I can Get them, That's what I buy.
Moody's right Though, There's No Right or Wrong here , Just personal Preference.
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Elite LX
Posted 2004-07-02 4:52 PM (#184091 - in reply to #184044)
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Keeping strings on a guitar sounds like it can be costly..........you guys that say you go through a set in a few weeks to a month..............are you playing a few hours per day or what? I am new to the guitar world and have been playing 4 months or let me rephrase this..........learning to play. I practice about every day for 45mins.-1hour. Roughly 5 hours weekly on conservative side. How long at this rate should strings last? Do they come with a projected hour life? I know this sounds stupid but the newbie to the world of guitars wants to know.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-07-02 5:03 PM (#184092 - in reply to #184044)
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EliteLX:

The life of strings is very much dependent on the guitarist. I have a friend who plays almost everyday and his strings last for months. I also play everyday (or try to) and my strings will last about 10 days. The difference? My hands are more acidic than his and my perspiration will deaden a set of strings far more quickly.

I lived for years with not changing my strings as often as I wanted to until I found

www.webstrings.com
... their strings are quite good and very inexpensive (less than $3.00/set).

Now I can afford to change my strings whenever they start to deaden and it doesn't break the bank!

You'll find that point where the strrings aren't bright anymore and that time will vary.

....Robbie Krieger of the Doors once said he never changed his strings unless he broke one and then changed only that one....
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Elite LX
Posted 2004-07-02 8:12 PM (#184093 - in reply to #184044)
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Thanks for the info. on strings and lifespan. Mine are dulling in the 4 months I have been playing.
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