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dleegblue
Posted 2004-12-28 10:55 PM (#168514)
Subject: U.K. ll


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Why is this particular U.K.ll so special. Why can't it be compared to any other U.K.ll's sold on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2384&item=3771686073&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
I have never played a U.K. nor have I seen one in person. I have read up on them and think they are very beautiful guitars. I would like to play one before finally considering buying one. Any owners of U.K.ll's like to give me any tips?

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Viper (1979 original owner)
Limited (1981 second owner)
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stonebobbo
Posted 2004-12-28 11:29 PM (#168515 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll



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Well, it's an interesting strategy ... Steve The Copier Guy had this guitar on eBay last week with a starting price of $899 and attracted no bids. So why not raise the price? It worked for Rolls Royce back in the '80s.
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Bailey
Posted 2004-12-29 1:28 AM (#168516 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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Interesting guitar, I hope he gets his price, but I doubt it at this time.
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stephent28
Posted 2004-12-29 1:36 AM (#168517 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll



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UK2's are wonderful guitars.

I think they are very similiar to an LP at about 2/3rds the weight. Terrific sustain and the out of phase switches add an interesting twist to the sound. Not a very bright guitar but quite ballsy.
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BruDeV
Posted 2004-12-29 2:23 AM (#168518 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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The switches beside the pickups are series/parallel.
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Beal
Posted 2004-12-29 7:25 AM (#168519 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll



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Nothing special about this guitar, just a real clean early example. Actaully the later ones had better grain definition on the body. I liked them better without the pickguard and with the Schaller bridge. (I think the toggle switch on this one was black originally)
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E.Sherman
Posted 2004-12-30 12:57 AM (#168520 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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I wonder if the plastic bridge has less sustain than a metal one...
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-12-30 3:21 AM (#168521 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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E. do you mean the plastic covered one like the one in the picture on this auction.

I like these bridges for playability more than the later schaller bridges, which I think look better.

There are a lot of subtle differences in the bridges which I'm guessing makes for the slight difference in sound. The plastic is just a cover. These covered bridges also have 3 points of contact to the body as opposed to the two points of the Schaller.

The older bridges also have lots of surface area of contact under the saddles. Now this was a problem sometimes and solved in later versions with "set screws" to keep the saddles flush. The Schaller bridges have less surface area between the saddles and the bridge.

Again, not sure if there really is a difference, but for some reason, I lean toward the sound of the older bridges.
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Beal
Posted 2004-12-30 7:08 AM (#168522 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll



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no sustain difference, just the cover looks so different.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-12-30 8:36 AM (#168523 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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I like the plastic bridge cover for the 6 strings, but on the 12's, boy is it a royal pain in the tookas to change strings.
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stephent28
Posted 2004-12-30 1:34 PM (#168524 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll



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Dleegblue,

Here is one that is more reasonably priced. Might be worth you bidding one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3772763482&fromMakeTrack=true
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innerman
Posted 2004-12-30 2:39 PM (#168525 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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I sent the seller a request to correct a couple of things that were innaccurate in the description. Namely, I think the tuners are Schaller, the body is (of course) not mahoghany but Urelite, and I advised him that Karman should be spelled Carmine.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-12-30 2:46 PM (#168526 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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That's it guys. Bring a lot of attention to this auction so that I can't buy a wonderful guitar for a stupidly low price.

Actually, I didn't bid that much. If somebody is really that interested, go ahead a bid. I'll bottomfeed if I can but don't expect to.
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dleegblue
Posted 2004-12-30 3:05 PM (#168527 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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Stephent28

Thanks. I been watching this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3772763482&fromMakeTrack=true
It is listed for 10 days. I'll see what the price is towards the end.

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Dave

Viper (1979 original owner)
Limited (1981 second owner)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-12-30 3:48 PM (#168528 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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Well, I'm heartbroken. Somebody outbid me.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2004-12-30 5:17 PM (#168529 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll



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Bummer, Paul. And it only had 9 days and 8 hours to go. ;)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-12-30 6:31 PM (#168530 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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Well, a man's nothing if he doesn't have dreams...
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dstan
Posted 2004-12-30 7:44 PM (#168531 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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I have an Ovation U.K.II w/ the serial # 12021. How can I find out where and when it was manufactured. Also how do you determine the value??

TIA

dstan
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cruster
Posted 2004-12-30 7:48 PM (#168532 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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On the Ovationguitars.com (the O-fficial web site), there is a section called 'Deciphering the Code' or 'Breaking the Code' that gives info on the various serial number ranges.

As far as the value, I offer you, in good faith and the spirit of OFC comaraderie, $151 for your UKII. Of course, I have no idea of the condition or any of that, but as a fellow member of the fold, I trust you.

:D
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dstan
Posted 2004-12-30 7:52 PM (#168533 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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Thanks, but I'll pass. I love this guitar.

dstan
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Beal
Posted 2004-12-31 9:02 AM (#168534 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll



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Guilford huh? It was made up the street from you in Moosup.
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dstan
Posted 2004-12-31 9:57 AM (#168535 - in reply to #168514)
Subject: Re: U.K. ll


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I bought it in a pawn shop in Milford, CT about 15 years ago for $110.00. I knew nothing about Ovations, (still don't really,I was just shopping electrics. It wasn't until last year that I bought my first "O" acoustic when I started playing out after a long hiatus. Now I'm looking to get the UK fixed up, it needs some fret and neck adjustments.

dstan
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