|
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | I know this has probably been done to death, and I could do a Search, but I'm feeling lazy just now....so...
what's the best mic for a guitar/banjo stage mic?
...I know, I know, but sometimes it's just easier to do the mic thing rather than the plug in thing, especially when switching from banjo to guitar to banjo to guitar to banjo ...... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Tim,
Prepare yourself for the onslaught of cracks about how banjos should not only never be mic'ed, but.... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | ....just put all the cracks where they belong, in the crack pot.... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I don't know if it is the best..probably not, but the fella that provides the sound equip for our little Bluegrass/Old Time jam uses both Shure Sm57 and Beta 58. They sound great and hold up well. He owns a successful pro recording studio and is the engineer, so I assume he knows what he's doing. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | ...Thanks Jeff,
I've been looking at the Shures and the AKG C1000s....
....other advice???? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2002
Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | If you must use a mike for live work a small diaphragm condenser mike is generally regarded as the best bet for acoustic guitar. Suitable affordable examples include the AKG C1000s & the Rode NT2, both of which can operate on phantom power or an internal 9volt. My preference would be for the Rode as it's externally-biased whereas the AKG is a back-electret type, though they sound pretty similar. I'm tempted to offer a few banjo gags but I'll resist and simply add that as the banjo is significantly louder & brighter than most acoustic guitars the extended sensitiviity, frequency response & output of condenser mikes becomes less of an issue and consequently a reasonable dynamic mike, such as a Shure Beta57A will work fine. If you need a single mike to cover as many bases as possible go with a condenser. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Tim,
I think he also uses a couple of condenser AKCs. Not sure of the model number, but I know they are kinda high-end. They are silver and have a uniform diameter from one end to the other. I know, highly technical description...I look the AKC up in a catlog to see if I can find the model... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | Thanks Paul and Jeff,
When I play the (gasp) banjo, I step back from the mic I use now unless I really need the boost, but I want to be able to pick up the nuances from my 2001 Redwood as well (close in to the mic)... the condensers seem like the best of both worlds...
...and I am really proud of you all for your astonishing restraint....
...how many banjo players does it take to change a light bulb...?
...none, they couldn't decide how Earl would have done it!
...there, feel better??? :D :rolleyes: |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Nevermind...Pauls got it covered... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | "...none, they couldn't decide how Earl would have done it!"
Gotta friend who has a banjo in need of some TLC. He is going to give to me as a starter.
Good thing I live alone way deep in the woods.
(Dueling Banjo tab here) |
|
| |
|
Joined:
December 2004
Posts: 4394
Location: East Tennessee | What do you call 20,000 banjo players at the bottom of the ocean??????
A GOOD START. :D
Just kidding. A condenser mic would be best. You can buy a single phantom power supply for around $40-$50. The Shure SM57 is also a good choice. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | ....glub....glub....glub....thanks...glubbbbbbb |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Tim;
You might also might wanna consider the re-issue of the Shure 55's. A combination of modern, stage mic technology that has that old-timey "look" that would compliment your banjo (probably the only "compliment" it'll EVER get! ;-)
I've got 3 of the original one's from the 50's/60's. The new ones have contemporary "works" in a retro-looking shell . . . . |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | "...The new ones have contemporary "works" in a retro-looking shell . . . ."
Not unlike Clifford himself... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | I do what I can . . . |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | ...RetroCliff,
..how good are the Shure 55s for instruments? My image is tarnished far beyond restoration, even by a retro mic....
I seem to be staring at the AKG C100S for what I need.... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | ". . ..how good are the Shure 55s for instruments? . ."
You could do better. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | AKG C1000S?...$149 at 8th ST. Music |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2003
Posts: 2503
Location: Fayetteville, NC | Tim,
Akg C100 is a great choice . I use to own two and they were workhorses. and they should work fine since you aregoing to use them to mike an Instrument or two and$149 is a good price. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | tanks cuz |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2002
Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | Originally posted by Tim Chapman:
...RetroCliff,
..how good are the Shure 55s for instruments? Part of the reason the SH55's sound the way they do is because the metal casing has a lot of mass and actually filters out the higher frequencies. So I wouldn't use them on acoustic instruments, except of course the banjo. Anything that will help push a banjo to the back of the mix has to be a good thing. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2005
Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | If it would push it off the stage altogether it would be even better. ;)
Then the ukes could step forward a little... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2003
Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | ...sigh...
 |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2005
Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | But she doesn't really look THAT happy about it, does she? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I find Banjo players among the best natured folk...often a just knod and smile.
...course that could be cause they can't hear us over the pluckin' |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2005
Posts: 349
Location: Snellville, GA | Is the subtitle of that painting "Sweet City Woman"? :cool: |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2002
Posts: 6202
Location: Phoenix AZ | I thought this thread was about irish guitar players. Dave |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | :D |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | hmmmm . . . "Mr. Sensitivity" goes off on a tirade yesterday over ManBoobs, and then comes back today espousing ethnic slurs at an entire race of musicians . . . . . :-) |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2002
Posts: 6202
Location: Phoenix AZ | Just checking to see if you really read my posts. Dave |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | ;) |
|
| |
Guitar Mics