Al Di Meola
schroeder
Posted 2005-03-25 5:07 PM (#157866)
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Is it just my imagination or is ADM the most faithful endorsee any guitar company ever had?

Big fans of Jerry Donahue in this house but the guy has gone through signature models for Fender/G&L/and now Peavey (or some such-I read it in a mag last week).

Eddie van Halen ditto.

Gary moore jumping ship to Heritage and then back again.

Almost every guitar company in the world has had a Johnny Smith model and a large number have had Joe Pass models.

Only BB and Gibson spring to mind as being in the same league.

Thoughts?
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BruDeV
Posted 2005-03-25 8:12 PM (#157867 - in reply to #157866)
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Strange, I'm just listening to 'Kiss My Axe'.
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cruster
Posted 2005-03-25 9:05 PM (#157868 - in reply to #157866)
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Stranger yet, I pulled 'Kiss My Axe' out of the rack on Wednesday...must be an AdM bug going around.
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luthier444
Posted 2005-03-29 5:12 PM (#157869 - in reply to #157866)
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I would like to add something to this..
I have repaired most of his guitars and built some of them.. He is a great guy and a valued and failthful endorsee. He plays other guitars as well as Ovation.. But i will tell you that if you were to ask him or if you were able to play like him you would understand why he plays a K-Bar A-gusset brace acoustic. He has a very strong attack on some progressions in which the A-gussett has the perfect compression to this.. Example - Whack a hard chord on a Taylor or even an LX and the sound is all over the place. As well as his fast soloing technique.. He is so good that each note plucked is met by the perfect timed press of the left hand resulting in such clear notes!!! Unlike most speed players who just brush the plectrum and hope the note sounds.. Any one as accomplished as AL and has the Incredible hulk hand strength as him would Understand. The K- Bar doesnt let the strings FLOP to miss a string soloing and the Gussett compression allows Hard strums to sound clear.. The LX has a more traditional loud fat tone.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-29 5:20 PM (#157870 - in reply to #157866)
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Thanks for taking the time to explain how the design of the guitar suits the style.
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fugot
Posted 2005-03-29 5:21 PM (#157871 - in reply to #157866)
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Does the new 1769-AD-II have the lx bracing and new neck with two bars in it?

Does/ will Al D. play the new 1769-ADII?

Is there really a 1779-AD-II (essentially the same but mid depth bowl)?

Is the 1769-AD-II neck anything like the sharp v shape neck like on the N769 craftsman model?
ahh, thanks mike
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luthier444
Posted 2005-03-29 5:30 PM (#157872 - in reply to #157866)
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AD guitars are the AD guitars. They are still my favorite and are still the same except they have his name on it.. A Gussett K-bar.. If they change it I will be pissed. They are essentially Original Custom lengend traditional Ovations. With a turbo button ... I love the LX because thats where the FAT sofa, campfire , all you need is the guitar sound comes from.
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luthier444
Posted 2005-03-29 5:50 PM (#157873 - in reply to #157866)
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AL D. is pretty clear on the shape of the neck.. No V.
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fugot
Posted 2005-03-29 8:22 PM (#157874 - in reply to #157866)
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Thanks for info, I appreciate it, mike
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schroeder
Posted 2005-03-30 3:06 AM (#157875 - in reply to #157866)
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Excellent stuff - thanks. The whole thing about how physically powerful ADM is is underlined on the Guitar Trio San Francisco album where McLaughlin who is the only guy in the world who picks as fast and accurately as al sounds far from his normal self simply because he's trying to match al's attack (and volume). The difference on the studio recordings is enormous - there he's not trying to be heard over superman with a deep bowl.
Next time you see al tell him I've got all his cds and isn't it about time I got one for free?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-30 7:21 AM (#157876 - in reply to #157866)
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Luthier 444,
How does the "A gusset" bracing differ from "Ovation A" as described on the Custom Legend web page?
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2005-03-30 8:44 AM (#157877 - in reply to #157866)
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Luthier 444,

Thanks for a most informative contribution. That bit is a great factoid.
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cliff
Posted 2005-03-30 9:02 AM (#157878 - in reply to #157866)
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ADM is also a JerseyBoy . . .
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schroeder
Posted 2005-03-31 7:37 AM (#157879 - in reply to #157866)
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Yeh, but so it turns out is Bongo Boy.

Do you figure I could ask old 444 to make my guitar for me? That would be so cool - jeez listen to me, will I never grow up?

(answers to the last part of that question are not actually necessasry)
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luthier444
Posted 2005-04-05 8:07 PM (#157880 - in reply to #157866)
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Sorry to bring this post up again.. But I noticed a little to do about it. To be fare to Paco De Lucia.. If you were to take Trio san fransisco and slow it down to audible range. Paco is quite a bit QUICKer than AL and John. And he picks with his fingers.. hehehehehhe Food for thought.

I love the Fantasia suite on this..!!!!!!! kicks ass!!!!
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-04-05 8:16 PM (#157881 - in reply to #157866)
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444,
I asked this previously: How does the "A gusset" bracing differ from "Ovation A" as described on the Custom Legend web page?

If you have appropriate clearence to devulge, please do.
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luthier444
Posted 2005-04-05 8:25 PM (#157882 - in reply to #157866)
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Oh sorry
A gussett and A are the same thing When i say A gussett , I mean A brace. Sorry
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-04-05 8:27 PM (#157883 - in reply to #157866)
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Thanks man.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-04-06 10:51 AM (#157884 - in reply to #157866)
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Wasn't getting into the fastest gun in town thing - just noting how hard JM had to attack his guitar to stay in the game with AdM's very hard, loud way of picking. The comparison is fair given that they both play with every note individually picked.
The Paco comparison is not really like for like - he uses hammer-ons and pull-offs all over the place and several of his more unbelievable passages involve him hammering on 4 note chords while playing the individual notes in perfect synch. It's got a wierd name, but there are few that can do it.
Now - back to my guitar. It's a Country Artist with a radiussed fingerboard and dot inlays. It should be being built around June time. It will be played fingerstyle, but single string runs like Paco will feature strongly. Any chance you can do the set-up and send me a McLaughlin Wechter beater?
I would also appreciate it if you could keep it away from the animals of the OFC while they are there. :D
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luthier444
Posted 2005-04-07 3:51 PM (#157885 - in reply to #157866)
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Darn -- No more Wechter cross strung drone string kasha flat tops in stock
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schroeder
Posted 2005-04-07 4:20 PM (#157886 - in reply to #157866)
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Actually drone strings would be quite cool if you can throw them in no charge. :D

I'm still expecting the best guitar in the universe- better than my custom legend?

Keep your eye on it and I will be your friend forever. Or not. The choice is yours - not everybody wants me for a friend.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-04-07 5:23 PM (#157887 - in reply to #157866)
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444,
Might I offer a little advice on the Schroeder matter...
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schroeder
Posted 2005-04-08 4:29 PM (#157888 - in reply to #157866)
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Bump.

I want to know ol' 444 has read this.

Jeff will explain the dangers of ignoring it. I'll become your friend.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-04-08 4:49 PM (#157889 - in reply to #157866)
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psssst...444, he's totally serious.
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