What was THE BEST ????
Standingovation
Posted 2005-03-29 8:07 AM (#157377)
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OK, think now. What was THE BEST single Ovation instrument you ever personally played? What was it? Did/do you own it? When/where was it? Why was it THE best - sound? looks? coolness? other?
Only Ovation and Adamas answers.

Dave
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-03-29 8:10 AM (#157378 - in reply to #157377)
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FD-14. February of '03. The first time I opened up the case and gave it a strum I was amazed. I bought it sight unseen. Had never heard of it except for a very small and hidden press lease on the Kaman site. Nobody at OFC had heard of it yet either. That first strum just blew me away. Dave
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John B
Posted 2005-03-29 8:14 AM (#157379 - in reply to #157377)
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Although I only had a minute to play it between sets at one of my gigs, I think that Cliff's Adamas was the best Ovation I've ever played. It had a huge sound!
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-29 8:20 AM (#157380 - in reply to #157377)
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1573. Bought having never played one. In my livingroom, the first full "G" and I knew.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2005-03-29 8:35 AM (#157381 - in reply to #157377)
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I played an Adamas last year that was a reject or prototype at a friends house after the tour last year. He can tell you more about it if he's listening, but as I recall it was an Adamas I non-cutaway that wasn't finished. No preamp, no finish on the top, no bowl paint, no cover on the back.. etc...

But the darn thing just spoke to me. I stayed with them for a couple days cause we got snowed on, and I kept going back and noodling on that guitar.
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-03-29 8:38 AM (#157382 - in reply to #157377)
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Right now I'd have to say my AD-II. But that will probably change after the tour.
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LeftyThatPlaysRighty
Posted 2005-03-29 9:00 AM (#157383 - in reply to #157377)
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Each one of my Ovations has it's own unique sound. Here's my story:

Last year my brother and I went to NYC and stopped in at MANNY's. We went to the rear of the store to try out the acoustics. When we walked in, a guy was playing Zeppelins "Over the Hills and Far Away". The sound coming from that guitar just "BOOMED" from it and filled the entire room. We thought he was plugged in an amplifier, but he wasn't. Turned out that this guitar was an Adamas Melissa Etheridge Signature Series 12 string Ruby Red (MERB). This ADAMAS not only had the sound, but the looks too. I tried it and knew right then I wanted this guitar. Pricey yes, but worth every penny. I even took my wife back to the store the following week and she couldn't believe the volume that pumped out of it instrument! I did not buy the guitar at manny's, but located one on Ebay. This guitar just sings!! If you have one, you know what I mean. If you don't, you need to check one out. If you are an Allman Brother's Fan, try strumming the chords to "Melissa" and I guarantee you'll play those chords for at least 20 minutes straight without stopping.

Warning to all members!!!
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This guitar has a tendancy to make you sound better than you really are. This may in turn decrease your practice time and give you a big head.

LeftyThatPlaysRighty
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-03-29 9:37 AM (#157384 - in reply to #157377)
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Hey LTPR, where in central NJ? I grew up in Belmar. Dave
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2005-03-29 9:44 AM (#157385 - in reply to #157377)
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1687: sound, looks & feel.
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cliff
Posted 2005-03-29 9:52 AM (#157386 - in reply to #157377)
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Dave;
You obviously haven't been to Belmar recently.
Nobody "grows up" there . . . ;)
I was kinda curious as to where LTPR is located as well, as I now live in Summit . .

btw:
On the "Topic" :
54Slot (duh.)
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fugot
Posted 2005-03-29 10:24 AM (#157387 - in reply to #157377)
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hmmm, since I only received my 1719-cm a couple of days ago (bought from Dave's guitar Online), I'm biased to it. The sustain just keeps going, the sound is full, the neck is easy to wrap around.
Tony and Stephen have converted me,(thanks guys). So I vote 1719-cm
I sort of like that 1537 thing I have stashed in CT., but need to play it more and contrast with 1719-cm, and even 2005 collectors.
Still, if I could have only one for evry situation, 2002 collectors, I love playing it and and would not be heartbroken to see it take a ding if it was outside the house. Also I hope to have it set up for Midi eventually.(ghost by graphtech) I wouldn't be modifying any of my other O's. mike
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-03-29 10:30 AM (#157388 - in reply to #157377)
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Cliff, I was actually in Belmar last summer (yeah I know, why didn't I call you). It was just a quick last minute day trip from the city. Anyway, Belmar has certainly changed. Some of it is 100% worse than it was 30 years ago. Some of it 100% better. Not a place I'd like to raise my family thesedays, but I sure had some great times there as a kid growing up.
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Tommy M.
Posted 2005-03-29 11:14 AM (#157389 - in reply to #157377)
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I currently own 5 USA made O's. Each different. I love playing the 1777LX the most. Perfect action, sound and feel. Although, I did play that 12 String Adamas, and I agree, that is one hellava guitar. Now I'm gonna find one.
Tommy
Grew up in Bayonne, live in Cherry Hill, anyone know the John Gorka song, I'm from NJ?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-29 11:16 AM (#157390 - in reply to #157377)
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Yup...

I grew up in Moorestown...Lived for years in Haddonfield (moved down here 5 years ago).
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TWA
Posted 2005-03-29 11:23 AM (#157391 - in reply to #157377)
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Tried several at the local GC but not as impressed with the sound projection as with my lesser expensive balladeer. Of course I am biased.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-03-29 11:27 AM (#157392 - in reply to #157377)
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Moved? Or was it relocated by the programme Mr Capone?

The stuff arrived today - excellent. I presume enclosing the price list was simply an act of pure sadism on your part?

What was the old Dylan song? Karina, Karina....

Your stuff left today.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-29 11:40 AM (#157393 - in reply to #157377)
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If your wife put a price on my head, I want it to cost her at least as much as a new Custom Legend.

Enjoy, and check out the "..Leather" thread, we've found something for you. I'm going to pass the hat so you don't need to worry about any additional cost.

...should I give my dog a quick lesson in explosives detection?
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schroeder
Posted 2005-03-29 11:47 AM (#157394 - in reply to #157377)
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SWMBO often flits in and out of NY to see her buddies in the SEC. I figure the attack will come from the direction of the IRS. She knows how to hurt a guy without lifting her foot. Be afraid...
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-29 11:54 AM (#157395 - in reply to #157377)
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You know of any small British Protectorates, without extradition treaties, that an American Tax Exile might enjoy until the Statue of limitations runs out...

...preferably, where women have bronzed skin and aren't hung up on traditional notions about clothing?
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cliff
Posted 2005-03-29 12:27 PM (#157396 - in reply to #157377)
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If such locale were ALSO out of the reaches of my ex-wife's divorce lawyer, I'd be equally interested . . .
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schroeder
Posted 2005-03-29 1:12 PM (#157397 - in reply to #157377)
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I do believe the Cayman Islands fit your rquirements on all counts.
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Bluebird
Posted 2005-03-29 4:52 PM (#157398 - in reply to #157377)
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Dave; since you are saying "favourite" instead of "only" I will narrow it down to my '68 GC Deluxe Balladeer. It is a great playing guitar and is the best sounding Ovation six-string I have ever heard. It is also the first Ovation I ever laid eyes on when ole Glen was wailing away on it on the Goodtime Hour back in '69...which is a big cool factor for me.

Wayne
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-03-29 5:24 PM (#157399 - in reply to #157377)
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Wayne, lets also point out to everybody that your's is not just a 1968 GC DB, it is the very first one, with Glen's initials in the fretboard at the 12th fret.

I've been thinking about this question all day. I tend to think that my 1537 is my favorite Ovation. It's the most versatile guitar I've ever picked up. It sounds great acoustically or plugged in. And it feels and looks "right" to me.

Now, having answered the question, I have to admit that on the list right behind it are my Adamas I 12 string, Dave's FD 14, and Clifford's slothead. I suppose that this is why I'm so interested in the OFC'er guitar, and in possibly aquiring a FD 14 someday.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-29 5:27 PM (#157400 - in reply to #157377)
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Paul,
Have you put in for the 12 fret A?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-03-29 5:38 PM (#157401 - in reply to #157377)
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Nope. The 12 freter that I want is the Folklore LX with a contoured back, 12 frets to the body, cutaway, and OP Pro. They're now making a Folklore LX, but with the regular bowl and it's 14 frets to the body, with a cutaway and the OP Pro. Almost there......
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-29 5:49 PM (#157402 - in reply to #157377)
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Ya know, Paul, all I asked was if you put in for a 12 fret A.

You didn't have to go through all that.


Christ, I got GAS now.


...cedar top?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-03-29 5:57 PM (#157403 - in reply to #157377)
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Spruce. If custom ordered, bearclaw.
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luthier444
Posted 2005-03-29 6:05 PM (#157404 - in reply to #157377)
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A customer`s White 1769 that he was suppose to give to his girl friend but never did because he loved it so much.. So he got her a different one .. hehehehe That guitar made every 12000$ martin sound stupid!!!!!!
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-03-29 6:29 PM (#157405 - in reply to #157377)
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My Favorite is , and always will be, my Elite 1758 12 string. It not only is a beautiful instrument to look at, It has a fantastic sound a it plays like a dream.

my second choice would be the 1124 Country Artist I foolishly traded in for another guitar.

I have celebrity CC059 to replace it but it is not nearly the instrument I had.

I have never had the opportunity to play an Adamas but sure would love to try the new U681T.

Those of you who are lucky enough to have one on order, please post pics and your feelings when you get yours.

I will wear a bib so as not to drool on my keyboard. :D
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-03-29 7:15 PM (#157406 - in reply to #157377)
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FD-14 Folklore Deluxe, hands down. I was lucky enough to play the one that Elderly Instruments had the summer of 2003. My wife commented on how good it sounded, but at that point, $1400 was out of the question for a guitar, unfortunately......

Roger
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Beal
Posted 2005-03-29 7:20 PM (#157407 - in reply to #157377)
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Q, s/n 10.
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luthier444
Posted 2005-03-29 7:25 PM (#157408 - in reply to #157377)
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If thats the one I played where the hell did it go????? I aggree if it can be found??????
If its not it is one of the Qsssssssssssss???????? Be tough matching that 1769
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cliff
Posted 2005-03-30 8:45 AM (#157409 - in reply to #157377)
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-03-30 9:13 AM (#157410 - in reply to #157377)
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Cliff... a picture is worth a 1000 words but in this case I think I need about 1036 words. Come on...what's the story?
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MWoody
Posted 2005-03-30 9:23 AM (#157411 - in reply to #157377)
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Brad,
If you had been following the posts everyday for the last 9 months instead of working so hard you would have read about Cliff's travels up the mountain and down to Floordah!

It's on loan, because deep down, seeing the smile on someone's face when they play a really cool guitar is at the heart of all this Ovation stuff we are doing!
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-03-30 9:35 AM (#157412 - in reply to #157377)
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That's a lot of plastic in one guitar (he he).
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-30 9:38 AM (#157413 - in reply to #157377)
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Injection molding. It's come a long way.
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cliff
Posted 2005-03-30 9:41 AM (#157414 - in reply to #157377)
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. . . Bill's loaned it to me under the condition that I come up twice a month and stand at the bottom of the mountain with an umbrella and a spackle bucket retrieving stray golf balls . . . :rolleyes:

.


Actually, I'm babysitting it until the Spring-time drive Norph.


btw Bill;
My ongoing cloud-seeding project has seen continued success.
The weather "up here" continues to be extremely shitty . . . .
Better stay DownSouph where it's Nice&Warm . . .
. . . should be safe up here soon . . .


. . . . maybe August. :D
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cliff
Posted 2005-03-30 9:46 AM (#157415 - in reply to #157377)
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. . . he really didn't say "plastic", DID he??

:rolleyes:
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-03-30 2:53 PM (#157416 - in reply to #157377)
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Ooops, sorry. I thought I was on the other board.
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mplkn
Posted 2005-03-30 3:44 PM (#157417 - in reply to #157377)
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Hmmm - sorry - gotta give two answers:

My 1111-1 produces an incredibly strong, deep clear sound - you can really lay into it and it just keeps on giving out more tone - wonderful dynamic range and a vast available spectrum of tone colors. Its top has had a lot of time to have a lot of vibes put through it - extremely responsive. It takes some torque (physical finger strength) to bring out its best - but its sound will really move you. It's got a big, deep voice, with tons of headroom.

The action on my 94 Collector's Edition (#26) is to die for. Intonation is dead-on accurate. Wonderfully, light, silky smooth chord slides - you can just drag a finger or two as you move between positions and get all kinds of tasty transitions. There doesn't seem to be an upper limit to the speed you can achieve - it just never gets in your way. It's like the one extremely fine bicycle I ever owned - a Motobecane Grand Record - weighed 24 pounds set up for the road. If you wanted to go faster, you simply spun your feet faster and you went faster. Speed isn't really the issue, though: it's that total responsiveness to subtle changes in finger technique that gives the instrument its range. You can make it do anything - and as I said above, it simply never gets in your way.

So, in its own way, but different from the Old War Veteran, the '94 Collector's is an equally responsive machine. I just love them both!

(A strat right on the edge, pushing tubes into just the right level of saturation is also a fantastically responsive musical experience - you can make it do amazing things just with how you dance or how you dig in - but I reckon that's OT here. I just love them all....)

Never mind what I say - Just love your instruments and use them!

best wishes,

Michael
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stephent28
Posted 2005-03-30 3:48 PM (#157418 - in reply to #157377)
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SO,
Is that Q, s/n 10 ?
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cliff
Posted 2005-03-30 3:50 PM (#157419 - in reply to #157377)
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Dat's Q10.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-03-30 4:01 PM (#157420 - in reply to #157377)
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I heard Q9 was the good one.
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Posted 2005-03-30 4:03 PM (#157421 - in reply to #157377)
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Well Cliffy,

Dare to compare....that old slothead you have versus the Q10. Desert island, unlimited booze, one woman, one guitar. Let's hear it with justification for choice!
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Posted 2005-03-30 4:08 PM (#157422 - in reply to #157377)
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guinness, sharon stone & my yet to be built Country Artist.

sorry, you weren't actually asking me were you?
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cliff
Posted 2005-03-30 5:21 PM (#157423 - in reply to #157377)
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Why do you guys insist on playing "Sophie's Choice" with guitars? :D

It'd be a DAMN tough call to make.
Both are awesome instruments.
Very similar, yet very different.
Bill had asked my impression on the Q a while back. I'd suggest doing a search and finding my original diatribe (to spare those who read it before). The very basic gist of it was that the SlotHead has a very loud, "full-out" sound. Just a lot of EVERYTHING. The Q has a bit more of a focused spectrum to it's sound. Kinda like hearing the SlotHead played with a well-tailored touch of EQ and compression applied to it. Surprisingly, the Q sounds "woodier" than you'd think that it'd sound. The SlotHead's neck is a bit chunkier, and is like playing a cello. The Q's neck is thinner, glass-slick, fast and sexy. The profile of the frets are a bit higher, making it feel a bit more "precise". As light as SlotHead is, in comparison the Q weighs NOTHING, and being that it's all so round, sleek, and slippery, it's a guitar that really has to played standing with a strap.

Being that they're both GREAT guitars, and both have a lot of similar (and different) features, it's close to impossible to say which "flavor" is better than the other. Put a Messerschmidt to my head, and MAKE me "choose" . . . I'd have to go with the SlotHead for two non-guitar reasons:

a.) The SlotHead and I have a long, convoluted "story" together.

3.) The Q is Bill's
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Posted 2005-03-30 5:38 PM (#157424 - in reply to #157377)
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Messerschmitt? Why would someone threaten you with a WWII fighter?
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Posted 2005-03-30 5:41 PM (#157425 - in reply to #157377)
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The clean up would take forever.
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cliff
Posted 2005-03-30 5:44 PM (#157426 - in reply to #157377)
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Didn't they make guns as well?
(like a machine-pistol)?

I've probably got the name wrong.
(f@ckin' sucks gettin' old)
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Posted 2005-03-30 5:45 PM (#157427 - in reply to #157377)
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Seems pretty desperate. I would think a stick with a nail through it would do just as well.
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Posted 2005-03-30 5:51 PM (#157428 - in reply to #157377)
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I don't think they ever made guns. They made some really ugly cars, though, like this one , and this one.
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Posted 2005-03-30 7:29 PM (#157429 - in reply to #157377)
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Those were great cars! I like the first one and have seen many of the second. Definately get noticed when you arrive. Right up there with the BMW Icetta model with the one door in front.

Back to guitars, If it weren't going to be Q10 then it would be one of the early slotheads, one of the acoustic ones and you'd have to change the nut and saddle to bone from the original gold delrin which was very soft and soaked up some vibration.
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Posted 2005-03-31 6:53 AM (#157430 - in reply to #157377)
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There was an off-white one of the 2nd ones at that CarShow by your house . . . .
I thought it was pretty cool, but couldn't see what it was. There were quite a few cars there that were just "wrong". . .

Note to Self:
BoneSaddle.

Is it pretty much a standard width/thickness that I can order from StewMac??

Is that delrin?
I always seemed to remember delrin being that hard, brittle shit that shtank of formaldehyde when you broke/cut it . . . maybe I'm thinking of cycolac . . . of course the way the synapses in my brain have been working as of late, who knows?
Hence, "Messerschmidt".
I was probably thinking "Schmeisser". . .


". . .y'gotta take either more of it or less of it, . . . I can't figure out which one . . ."
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Posted 2005-03-31 7:01 AM (#157431 - in reply to #157377)
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Cliff,
Take more of it cause you forget to take it as often.

Isn't Derlin a fancy form of nylon?
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Posted 2005-03-31 7:33 AM (#157432 - in reply to #157377)
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Wouldn't cermic or porcelain make a good nut material?
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schroeder
Posted 2005-03-31 7:39 AM (#157433 - in reply to #157377)
Subject: Re: What was THE BEST ????


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Way too easy to snap/chip.

Or... it would chafe your thighs.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-31 7:48 AM (#157434 - in reply to #157377)
Subject: Re: What was THE BEST ????


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Ahhh, Gold Bond.
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ChatMan
Posted 2005-03-31 8:13 AM (#157435 - in reply to #157377)
Subject: Re: What was THE BEST ????


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And after a brief sortie in luthier land, the OFC returns to its median level.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-03-31 8:25 AM (#157436 - in reply to #157377)
Subject: Re: What was THE BEST ????


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ChatMan,
Sorry, if I take us even further astray, but are you involved with the Language software?
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