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Location: Converse, Texas | I was just thinking of when the Beatles played Hey Jude on David Frost WA-A-A-AY back in 1968, I believe. Anyway, anyone out there remember who played bass guitar on that live version? McCartney was on piano, and in all the pictures I have seen John is playing his Epiphone and George is playing a Fender. |
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Location: closely held secret | That was actually the same film shown on the Smothers Brothers show (b/w on Frost, color in US) - Frost taped an intro at Twickenham Studios to make it look like it was an exclusive.
They played along with a pre-recorded backing track, it was Paul playing bass... |
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Location: Snellville, GA | You'd think Ashlee Simpson was first to use backing tracks... :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes: |
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Location: Central Florida | They were singing to a backing track, but if memory serves, the Fender George had was a six-string bass.
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Location: closely held secret | All the documentation I can find says Paul played bass, John rhythm, George lead. That looks to me like a geetar he's holding there.
In fact, I can't recall any Beatles song where George is credited with playing bass. |
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Location: central nj | I'm not a big beatles fan, but their music has greatly impacted my favorites. (outlaws, skynyrd, etc) Thanks for sharing the photos...they were great!! |
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Location: closely held secret | Glad to do it. They impacted my style hugely over the last 35 years. |
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Location: Snellville, GA | That's a 6-string guitar. |
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Location: Paris/France | Some information more.
The song was written for John Lennon's son Julian.
The first title was "hey Jules" but Paul was thinking it was better with a "D".
That's why the final title was "Hey Jude" and not "Hey Jules".
The song was recording at the EMI studio on tuesday 07/30/1968.
A second version was recording at the "Trident Studio" on 07/31/1968. George on Electric guitar, Paul on piano, John on rythm guitar and Ringo on tambourine.
On 08/01/1968, another version was made with 40 musicians.
The final version was mixed on 08/01/1968!!!
On the version from "the David Frost Show" (09/04/1968), George is playing on a bass guitar!!!!!!! That's true!!!!
The legend say that George was angry with Paul because Paul refused some of the guitar parts from George on this song.....
The song was filming at the "Twickenham Film Studio" with one of the version of "Revolution". David Frost was here that's why we can believe that this song was specially recording for David's TV Show...
But it's not true!!!
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Location: Paris/France | My name on this board is "Paulmac"!!!
And I'm the lucky owner of this guitar:
Do you know why??????(joke) :cool: |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by paulmac:
I'm the lucky owner of this guitar:
Do you know why? Because you don't have an 1881 Adamas II shallowbowl cutaway to hang on that hook ??? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Damn Dave....I was gonna go another way with it but I like yours much much better! |
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Location: Paris/France | Thanks Dave for your reply!!!!!
I've seen your beauty for sale on Ebay!!!!
If I was not reasonable and rational, your incredible 1881 should be soon on my wall....
J ;) |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Jerome,
That's the Same Ric model that George played isn't it?Paul has used Ric Basses for years too. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | The guitar George is playing is called a Fender Bass VI with a 30" scale and I think is normally tuned as a baritone.
What's the story on the Rick, Jérôme?
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Location: Paris/France | This is a 350 Jetglo.
The same guitar as John even if some people can tell me that John's Rickenbacker was a 325 jetglo.
George has played a lot of models like Höfner, Gretch (most of models available in the 60's), Epiphone (Emperor & Casino), Fender Telecaster(Mahogany wood & a black one) & Stratocaster, Gibson SG (on Revolution), Rickenbacker 330 & the first 330/12 especially made for him in 65, and more and more and more...
George is surely one of the greatest guitar player that i've ever heard and my favorite one.
Not a "guitar hero" but you can't imagine the work he has done with the Beatles. He was the friend of the greatest in the world (E.Clapton, C.Atkins, K.Perkins...) and today I miss him...
Paul was playing with his famous Höfner Bass till 1966. But he also played on the first Rickenbacker 4001-S. This legendary bass was given to him in 64 or 65 but this instrument was too heavy for playing on stage. That's why the first time he used his 4001-S was on "Sergeant Pepper".
But we're on the OFC board and not on the Beatles Board...
And I've never seen a picture of the Beatles with an Ovation during the 60's!!!
Paul has received two Slothead in 1976 and there's some pictures of Denny Laine with one of these beauty during the "Wings" period!!
And Paul is also playing on a "Custom Legend" on the "Wings over America" tour.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | If the Ric is the same model that George played, then PaulMac wouldn't make sense.....it would need to be GeorgeHar. Must be some other link we are missing here. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Jérôme, as stated above, the Beatles are on-topic on any self-respecting guitar board!
As you probably know, Samova owns the Denny Lane slothead now.
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Location: NJ | The tele wasn't mahogany, it was solid rosewood, and was custom-built and presented to him by Fender . . .
Bill, didn't you tell me on NewYear's that that one had just recently sold for some in$ane amount? . . . |
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Location: Paris/France | Just a precision on the John's 325.
You probably know the first John's Ric from the late 50's in a natural finish and a bibsby.
This is the same Ric that John was playing on most of the Beatles records in the 60's but he had refinished it in a black color!!!
And he add "buttons" from an old radio...
Very collector's items today.
I'm gonna sell my Ric in the next weeks because i need money to buy my dream. An Adamas I... |
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Location: Snellville, GA | Originally posted by Bluebird:
The guitar George is playing is called a Fender Bass VI with a 30" scale and I think is normally tuned as a baritone.
What's the story on the Rick, Jérôme?
Wayne I stand corrected. |
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Location: Paris/France | Sorry Cliff,
You're right. I've take a look in my dictionnary and "Palissandre" in French is "Rosewood" in English.
Here is the original George's Fender guitar:
And I very "jealous" of Samova.....
I didn't know he is the owner of this beauty!!
It's a dream for a Beatles & Ovation fan like me. ;) |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | You're right about the Tele, Cliff. However, after they made his, they produced about 200 to sell to the GP. I had one but like a dumb-ass, I sold it.
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Location: NJ | Wow! NICE guitar, Wayne!
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Location: Bristol, UK | Ahhh...if you'll indulge me a quick story:
I went to Quarry Bank school in Liverpool (where John went, and where he formed his first band, The Quarrymen)
When I was fifteen, the BBC came to do a dramatisation of John Lennon's life, and the director thought it'd be a good idea to get some lads from the school to play John and his mates.
I was a gobby little kid, and blagged myself a tiny little speaking part in the film as Pete Shotton, the washboard player(!) - whilst we were hanging around waiting in-between takes, I picked up "John"'s guitar and the rest is...well not exactly history, but I'm still working on it... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | That is a later 60's Fender 6 string bass that George is playing. Not sure how it was strung, E to E or sometimnes they were A to A, more like a baritone.
(Don't you hate it when you post a reply and THEN notice there's a second page? I'll leave the first part stand anyway)
Cliff, It was a solid rosewood tele as described. I thought it was recently sold at auction for something stupid in the 400,000 range, or maybe that was just the asking price. The one I had at New Year's was all Koa and chambered and it now has a twin that is rosewood that only cost me 1 for the parts. They make a pretty guitar but when all the emotion is gone the Koa sounds better, is lighter and all around a better guitar to play. |
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Location: Florida | Originally posted by paulmac:
This is a 350 Jetglo.
The same guitar as John even if some people can tell me that John's Rickenbacker was a 325 jetglo.
George has played a lot of models like Höfner, Gretch (most of models available in the 60's), Epiphone (Emperor & Casino), Fender Telecaster(Mahogany wood & a black one) & Stratocaster, Gibson SG (on Revolution), Rickenbacker 330 & the first 330/12 especially made for him in 65, and more and more and more...
George is surely one of the greatest guitar player that i've ever heard and my favorite one.
Not a "guitar hero" but you can't imagine the work he has done with the Beatles. He was the friend of the greatest in the world (E.Clapton, C.Atkins, K.Perkins...) and today I miss him...
Paul was playing with his famous Höfner Bass till 1966. But he also played on the first Rickenbacker 4001-S. This legendary bass was given to him in 64 or 65 but this instrument was too heavy for playing on stage. That's why the first time he used his 4001-S was on "Sergeant Pepper".
But we're on the OFC board and not on the Beatles Board...
And I've never seen a picture of the Beatles with an Ovation during the 60's!!!
Paul has received two Slothead in 1976 and there's some pictures of Denny Laine with one of these beauty during the "Wings" period!!
And Paul is also playing on a "Custom Legend" on the "Wings over America" tour.
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Location: Florida | George was very fond of Gretsch guitars, he's quoted saying that his 57 Duo-Jet was his first good guitar. Most people remember the Country Gent that he used during the first Ed Sullivan shows. The Ric 12 string was actually a 360-12 given to him by Rickenbacker while he was sick back at the hotel. They wanted him to use thier amps also but thier manager Brian had a handshake deal with Vox. He had a Tennessean that you see during the Shea stadium concerts.
The Strat was originally blue and he painted it pyschodelic and named it Rocky. He used a Gibson SG and an Epiphone Casino with a Bigsby trem as well. He also had a red LesPaul given to him by Clapton after he used it to do the lead on While my guitar gently weeps.
Just my 2 cents to add. |
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Location: NJ | Yeah Bill, I remembered the koa one from NewYear's, and you showed me the recently finished rosewood one "DownIsland", (I like the hardware, btw). Can't say I like the look of one better'n the other. Both are nice, just "differnt". I guess I could see how the lighter koa'd resonate a little more (and be easier on the back). |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | The rosewood I had was a boat anchor...heavier than a Les Paul even though it was the slightly later version that had a sandwiched body with hollowed chambers instead of a solid slab like the first few. This design made it feel head-heavy with that solid rosewood neck.
It had a nice funky, almost semi-hollow sound though, because of those chambers.
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Location: closely held secret | At least we came to an agreeable conclusion to the original question - it's a Fender Bass VI.
Thanks, Bluebird!
1961 Fender Bass VI
Fender Bass VI |
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Location: Converse, Texas | Wow! I knew you guys would have the answers. So did they use a backing track or not, since George is playing bass?
EDIT: ANd where can I get a Tele like George's? Obviously, I won't be able to afford George's. But it does look sweet, and I'm a tele fan. I used to have a blonde 56 tele with a white pick guard ... but ... I sold it. |
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Location: closely held secret | Yes, they used a backing track for everything but the vocals.
Here\'s a page that talks about it, scroll to the bottom for Hey Jude/Revolution. |
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Location: Converse, Texas | The Musician's Union had banned lip-syncing, huh? Hmmmm... |
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| Over here about 3 years ago, despite the members voting against, the Musicians Union let DJs in. They classify them as Affiliated Entertainers or something.
Which is a bit like describing Joss Stone as a soul singer. |
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Location: NJ | . . . with that rationale, anyone who participates in a friggin' karaoke bar should be getting union benefits . . . |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Hizzoner;
Here is a Fleabay auction for one of the MIJ reissues that looks pretty nice but will probably go for about 2K in the end. One of the original USA versions, when they turn up, go for about 6K+
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Location: Converse, Texas | MIJ ... Good ... in the same sentence? Can it be true? |
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Location: Central Florida | I can vouch for the quality of the Japanese made Fenders. I own a MIJ 50's reissue Strat as a back up to my American Deluxe Series Strat, and it's a very solid, well built guitar. I bought it with the intention of upgrading the pickups right out of the box, but so far I've been very pleased with the tone and output of the stock Japanese p/u's.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | I agree, Jeff. The MIJ stuff, especially the reissues are very good. My mid-eighties reish '62 strat does a very convincing imitation of the several real ones I had.
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Location: Central Florida | Hey Wayne,
Isn't there a story in Fender lore of the heads of Fender's US operation being humbled to the point of tears when they saw the first Japanese reissues because they were not only such accurate reproductions but also of superior quality to what Fender USA was producing at the time?
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | I think current owner Bill Shultz apon aquiring the company said something to the effect that the first thing they had to do was to get the quality of Fender USA up to snuff with Fender Japan...and eventually, they did.
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Location: Converse, Texas | Hmmm... maybe I ought to seek out one of those reissues... |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | mid 70's thru mid 80's are good.
If you can find one try a made in America Aria Fullerton. note: they were/are also made in Japan, Korea, China and Indonesia. |
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Location: Anchorage, Alaska | I also have one of the "Crafted In Japan" fifties reissue Strats and a 2004 Am Dx Strat. I must say that the Japan Strat is right up there with the newer American Strat. I read somewhere that one of the reasons they moved the factory from Japan to Mexico, is because the Japanese Strats got so much more popular than the American models and the "big shots" at Fender didn't like it. The Japanese got so good at making these guitars they also started to demand more money for producing the CIJ Strats. Another reason for the move to Mexico. There is a great book on the history of the Stratocaster called the "Stratocaster Chronicals". Very good read. |
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Location: Cheshire, CT | Of course, they were playing with a backing track. But I do believe that's a Fender Bass VI: a late 60s thin stinged 6 string bass that looked very much like a Jag. A good friend of mine had one.
Also, I semn to remember Jack bruce playing one in early pictures of Cream. |
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Location: closely held secret | Um, neonjohn, I think we resolved that about 2 months ago... |
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So...do either of those Tele's have a set of Barden's in 'em? How does it sound? |
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Location: Evansville,IN | Speaking of Japanese made guitars, I have one of the CIJ Charvels that was made before Fender bought them out, and moved them back to the US (San Dimas models). This guitar is one of best I've ever owned, even has real Seymour Duncan active pickups. Literally will scream. :D |
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