Next Adamas reissue
play4fun
Posted 2005-04-07 7:38 PM (#155672)
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While I realize that there is much excitement over the U681 T-5, I was wondering what opinions are on the next reissue,the 1681 Adamas II ?

Also here's a link that overviews what Ovation is up too and hints at what's in store for next year. web page
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2005-04-07 7:47 PM (#155673 - in reply to #155672)
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2005 is a good year for ovation/adamas product line. lots of good products. note that ovation is no longer a company. it's just a product line under Kaman.

i think all of the new adamaii are good. u guys should buy one or two.
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Bluebird
Posted 2005-04-07 8:27 PM (#155674 - in reply to #155672)
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"...Note that ovation is no longer a company. it's just a product line under Kaman..."

What does that mean, exactly?

Wayne
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-04-07 10:09 PM (#155675 - in reply to #155672)
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Ovation was originally a division of Kaman Engineering (or whatever the original company was called. later it was folded under Kaman Music and became a product line, like Takamine, Toca, etc.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-04-07 10:12 PM (#155676 - in reply to #155672)
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The 1681 is probably not as big an issue to a lot of us because we own an original from the '80s or early 90's.

However, if I did not have one, I would jump all over a reissue because it is a great playing and sounding guitar. I am sure the reissue will be just as impressive.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-04-08 1:49 AM (#155677 - in reply to #155672)
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The A2 reissue is actually quite appealing. To me, much more so than the A1. Cutaway, single side epaulet only and OP-Pro pre-amp. That's a damn nice package. Dave
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ebee
Posted 2005-04-08 2:14 AM (#155678 - in reply to #155672)
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OP-Pro? Are you sure?

Also, what's the size of the bowl? Deep, mid, mid-deep, deep-deep. . .?
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richardd
Posted 2005-04-08 3:09 AM (#155679 - in reply to #155672)
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The Adamas 11 reissue has the old style (but redesigned) volume and tone knobs and a stereo output and I agree, a very nice guitar.

I used to have a red one.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-04-08 3:27 AM (#155680 - in reply to #155672)
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Richard is correct, I was thinking of the 12'er. I played it at namm. It's deep bowl. Dave
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alpep
Posted 2005-04-08 6:02 AM (#155681 - in reply to #155672)
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let me put on my pimp hat.

I am now taking orders for the Adamas II if interested contact me.

Pimp hat off.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-04-08 6:59 AM (#155682 - in reply to #155672)
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Hey Al, Over here in the netherlands I don't think they have pimps. Looks to me like most sellers go direct.
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cliff
Posted 2005-04-08 7:24 AM (#155683 - in reply to #155672)
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". . How Much is that Witko in the Window? . . ."
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-04-08 7:28 AM (#155684 - in reply to #155672)
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Cliff,
if you have to ask, you can't afford it
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cliff
Posted 2005-04-08 7:36 AM (#155685 - in reply to #155672)
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Witko's a slut.
:D
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Beal
Posted 2005-04-08 7:40 AM (#155686 - in reply to #155672)
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But a very interesting slut. Probably a sluthead at that.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-04-08 7:52 AM (#155687 - in reply to #155672)
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Maybe we could get a group rate.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-04-08 8:36 AM (#155688 - in reply to #155672)
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I DID get a group rate! Three locals felt so sorry for me that they chipped in and paid ME to accept a good time from them.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-04-08 9:17 AM (#155689 - in reply to #155672)
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At the same time??? Those 3 guys must have been desparate!
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-04-08 9:36 AM (#155690 - in reply to #155672)
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"Three locals felt so sorry for me that they chipped in and paid ME to accept a good time from them."


Dave,Thats Funny! The Girls usualy pay me to leave them alone! :rolleyes:
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stephent28
Posted 2005-04-08 9:53 AM (#155691 - in reply to #155672)
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Sluthead....snicker.....good one W2 :D
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stephent28
Posted 2005-04-08 9:54 AM (#155692 - in reply to #155672)
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Dave,

You saw a 12 string Adamas reissue at NAMM?
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-04-08 10:04 AM (#155693 - in reply to #155672)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Dave, You saw a 12 string Adamas reissue at NAMM?
When I said 12'er, I was referring to the 12 fretter. Sorry to get your hopes up.

Originally posted by Moody P.I.:
Those 3 guys must have been desparate.
When I said 12'er, I was referring to .... ooops bad cut and paste job. Sorry.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-04-08 10:18 AM (#155694 - in reply to #155672)
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Dave, you slay me.........
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ebee
Posted 2005-04-18 8:59 PM (#155695 - in reply to #155672)
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I'm considering ordering a Adamas II reissue. . . however, since quite a few U681 owners are dissatisfied with the visual flaws, I'm worried that the guitar I end up with will not be as "pretty" as she ought to be.

That said, I guess my next option would be finding a used Adamas II. Now how much would something like that set me back? Does anyone know of an AD II looking for a new home?
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Beal
Posted 2005-04-18 9:27 PM (#155696 - in reply to #155672)
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I think they should make the reissues exactally like the originals. Then all the fit and finish comments would take up 100 pages! Now by today's standards the quality then would be about an 80 out of 100. It was so much easier then because they were something really new, particullarly the slotheads. A 100% preserved example of a Slothead would be absolutly shredded to pieces by those on the other record long thread. Not throwing stones, just that's the way it was then. People today expect much better (as they should and they should be able to get it)
ebee, you can find them out there on the bay and they're great guitars. Honestly the quality of the new ones are better. I looked at a bunch of the Uwhatever-it-is today and they looked fine to me. Of course I like the smell of jet fuel too.....

And for the record the reissues should look as close as possible to the originals. Bringing back things that are bad is pretty stupid. Getting rid of the K-Bar on some of the reissue models is good but don't go back to the original type truss rod, which had a whole host of problems, go with the new dual acting rod, looks just the same as the original but works better with today's technology. The reissues need to have all the appeal of yesterday but all the advantage of today. Dead nuts duplicates bring back all the problems from those designs. There is a middle ground here and it's the smarter way to go.
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alpep
Posted 2005-04-19 5:53 AM (#155697 - in reply to #155672)
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not making the guitar a dead nuts duplicate will just fuel those that don't want to get an original but not spend 10K.
I agree making it better is much more appealing. Voices of critics will always be there no matter how good or poor.
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