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Location: Belgium | Hello,
What you think about THE COUNTRY ARTIST 1624 ? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I've owned two of them. Nice guitars and you can get them pretty cheap these days. Dave |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | If you do a search of the bulletin board, you'll find it's a well regarded guitar. I've found it's really good for playing in an amplified situation, particularly bouncy latin stuff, and fingerpicking blues. Sounds pretty good unamplified too. I've reached a stage in my life where the guitars I own, have to be guitars that I will own and use forever, 'till the day I die, and the 1624 is one of them. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I recently got a question from "Serge" about shipping to France. Here is the auction:
1624 on Ebay
Any relation to the question?
I also have pictures in my gallery. The 1624 is a very enjoyable guitar! Room to fingerpick, Ovation Pickup and Preamp and the nylon strings are just a different medium for me. I picked this one up, got to see for myself and hopefully made it abetter instrument for the next owner! |
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| Looking at this in the Ovation archive it doesn't give a preamp - was this one of the dirct out models I've heard you guys mention?
Looks like a great guitar - ebony board and that nice plain walnut bridge (Mr. Moody!) The sunburst looks really good in the picture.
Fred - buy it. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Frederic,
You're lucky its not pink. It'd already be sitting in a living room in a London suburb, with a freshly sanded radial fretboard. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | "Sunburst"??? |
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Location: SoCal | Woodrow's guitar has the stacked volume/tone controls in the waist of the guitar. They were built like that in the early 1980's when the cutaways first came out. As you will recall, before the cutaways, the volume or stacked volume/tone controls were on the bass shoulder of Ovations, with the strap button on the treble side. With the cutaways, the strap button went back to the bass shoulder and the preamp controls went to the waist, where they've been ever since.
By the way, Country Artists are terrific guitars. Great when plugged in, decent when unplugged. I've got a 1983 1674 cutaway. It's one of my "will never sell" guitars. |
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| "Sunburst"?
That's what it says on the picture.
Are you queryiong that or are you another -4 freak? That way lies ukelele madness......
The reference to pink I will ignore. It is all aplot by a native Joiseyan hiding out in Virginia (named for our beloved queen QE1) and a native Martian living in Joisey. These people are a danger not only to themselves but to all of us. I thought you guys had a 3 strike rule. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Ok, the picture in the Ovation site is the sunburst. Being self-centered I thought you were talking about mine. I will have you know that in my cOllection I have 3 Sunbursts, 3 naturals, one Honey Mustard and a Cadillac.
I will take a AAA Natural over a Sunburst on most days though! The Poly-finish does amazing things with fir silk! |
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| I have The New York Public Library "Science Desk Reference" to hand and what the %^&* "fir silk" is is beyond the both ofus.
Explain yourself my good man. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | To a Woodsman cutting cedar the silk is the very tiny splinters that get down his shirt and itch like hell.
To a Woodworker the silk is the very fine hairlike structures that dominate the summer (lighter and softer) portion of the growth ring. When quartersawn and flattened the silk in Sitka Spruce or Douglas Fir will refract light differently and even seem to glow.
The hard clear finish used on Ovations enhances the "silk" quite well. It gives it depth!
With flash photos you will see some guitars seem to have a dark side and a lighter side. No need to consult Yoda - change the angle and they switch. Fine book-matched halves will show this differential clearly.
And, much like automobiles, they are graded for desirable looks (not sound) and the best become -4 tops. |
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| I am copying this into the Desk Reference and will shortly be firing off an email to the editor asking why this wasn't in there in the first place. Excellent stuff - thank you. :) |
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| Well Now Mr. Woody I have been working with wood for living as a cabinet maker, woodcarver, finish carpenter, and general plywood, dimensional & rugh-cut wood, glue, nail and screw man for many years. Even done my share of Timber work with a Chain saw. And although I have had every kind of wood splinter and smelled most types of wood, fresh, (green) cut and aged/kiln dried and then cut, I have never heard it called Silk! Ya just gotta love this site man!
There's one smart bunch-a-bastards in here!
Of all the quartered woods I like the look of good old American White Oak the best. Sure wish it would make better guitar tops!
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Location: Upper Left USA | English is a living language ya know!
What would you call the effect of the cross mowed pattern you see on a well manicured Baseball field?
I actually heard of the Silking in a guitar top on this site. It's my story and I'm sticking to it! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | you guys ever seen quarter sawn Osage Orange? Stunning. It would make for killer epualets |
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Location: Snellville, GA | Mmmmm.....Ceeeeddaaarrrr.... |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | MWoody
I will stick up for you, even though I can't cite a reference. SILK has been used many times to describe the grain pattern of a superior spruce guitar top. My guess is that it originated from the way a superior silk garment will refract light when examined under sunlight. It is called a "moire" pattern when it occurs on a TV screen and wipes out the picture.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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| So, Woody, how does it fel to be a smart-bunch-of-bastards all on your own? :confused: |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I am used to it by now!
Admiral Rickover was holding a discussion with one of his subordinates who slipped in the term "we" at some point while attempting to explain certain decisions that where made.
The Admiral remarked "There are three persons who can use the term we; A Ruler of a Soveriegn Nation, a Schizophrenic and a pregnant women...
... which of those sir, are you?" |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | Actually you could be all three. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Hmmmmmmmmm...
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Schroeder was playing music at the wedding...
that's him in the blue dress. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | To the left of Mr. Dress-Left? :eek:
BTW - it looks like my 1624 will have a new home soon! |
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | "silk" fits the description just fine my man! I couldn't have explained it any better!!
I've got several -4 Ovations with some beautiful silking....... |
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| Well WE think that; "If WE knew half as much as half of us already know.... Then the half that WE knew know only half as much as the rest of us already know, will still, only know half of what the rest of us, who knew twice as much, knew before we met the half who knew only half of what we know, will have to learn twice as much"
Yep One half smart bunch we got here. I like the whole Silk thing myself. Just tryin to catch up on the Half of the stuff I don't know. Getting my fair share right here! Just Gotta Love it.
Never doubted Yaz for a minute.... And I plan to use this Silk reference at work! Just as soon as this sort of a "woodworkers trivia informational sharing opertunity" presents itself!
I sure hope someone finds my posts as humorous as I think they are while typing them out?
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | :D My half find your half pretty funny.... :rolleyes: |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Randy,
Just for that, I'm not sending the 12fretter.
where's the aspirin. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Randy
I think I find your post as funny as you think it is, it took me half an hour to decipher the logic, then I realized I was in a state of mesmerization sort of like the AFLAC Duck listening to Yogi Berra exclaiming that "cash is just as good as money", did you just say "silk is just as good as nylon when it comes to AAA spruce"?
That's funny to me!! |
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| "Silk is just as good as Cash" !
Yeah I like my stab at a "half baked" logic droodle, but
Bilbo Baggins said it best at his eleventy one'th birthday party.
Osage Orange???? sounds interesting. is it actually wood? Where would one find an Osage Orange?
What was this thread about?? Ohh yeah I got in because I was considering buying Our very own Mr. Woody's country artist. Which looks, by the way, to have a nicely done refinish job on the top!
Nice to bid on members items, wish you had offered it here this week. Would have made a nice neat deal for us both.
No matter
Thanks just the same for the auction.
Randy |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Quote By Northcountry:
"Osage Orange???? sounds interesting. is it actually wood? Where would one find an Osage Orange?"
It is common in the east/mid west along road sides and farmland and used as hedgerows or barriers. They produce a non edible fruit that looks like a big green brain. A very beautiful, orange/yellow colored, hardwood and especially so quarter sawn.
Here's a washed out image of Osage orange |
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| That is interesting! Like that Osage Orange! Takes that Yellow/Orange stain quite well! Would love to see it in person, photo's never do wood grain justice.
I have a few nice blocks of Shagbark Hickory I have been saving along with some Black Walnut & various natural treasures I have found here in the Adirondacks. Nice to see the Guitar made from the Shagbark! Never considered using it for a luthier project.
So much to learn so little time.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Just ran back through this thread to see what I had missed.
I am a sucker for the African Sapele - silk or no silk! Some of the veneers I have garnished are really cool. It's the cheap way of seeing them!
Randy - You'll get mail today! |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Just for the record
Osage Orange is known for it's properties as a great bow wood (as bow and arrow) I believe it was a source of the great long bows of midevel Britain's success. |
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| Interesting, perhaps it would be good for neck material as well as a figural body wood?
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country artist 1624