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Location: Cicero, NY | Ok, based on the responses another current topic (which I am still enjoying immensely), I thought you folks might eat this one up. I'm a huge fan of utterly ridiculous lists ("The best song..."; The greatest guitarist..."; you get the picture - those lists which are NEVER right) but I was reading one a bit ago on the most influential song ever recorded. A song that changed the direction of music, if you will.
Let's have sme fun with it and, after a bit, I'll let you know what the "List" said and I probably agree with! Ok, who's first...? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Happy Birthday. |
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Location: Chapin SC | Harmonice Musices Odhecaton A by Petrucci in 1501. the first polyphonic music set in print.
You know, Chordal instead of Linear like Gregorian Chant. with out that, we wouldn't have Inna Godda Davida by Iron Butterfly or Crazy by Cline. sl |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I was thinking more along the lines of Dylan, Elvis, Beatles, maybe me on a fun Friday night...but I digress... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Rock Around the Clock by Bill Halley and the Comets. |
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Location: NJ | "Here Comes the Bride" :rolleyes: |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Now there's a great start (not that Happy Birthday or Petrucci were bad but I think we're going to be starting a new "special" calss for those two). ;)
Anyone else want to join? Anybody at all...just jump right in...no waiting around here...yep, just throw it out...there are no wrong...well, not many wrong answers here... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Cliff, if you could just join Jeff and Shawn over here, please...? |
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | I'm still reeling from The White Album played backwards.... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Ok then...It's been great stopping by...hope to see you all again REAL soon! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by cliff:
"Here Comes the Bride" :rolleyes: Cliff,
Just how has this little tune influenced you? |
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Location: Atlanta GA | Although I personally don't care for it, Elvis's "Blue Swade Shoes" probably plowed some new ground in the rock & roll world. (I couldn't even get close enough to the correct spelling of swade to find it in the dictionary) |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | And by the way I'm a hugh Petrucci fan. Saw him on his last tour. He did a 2hour set and a killer 20 minute acoustic version of HMO. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Excellent choice, Mitch. Who could argue how influential that song was?
(By the way, where's Carle Place?) |
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Location: NJ | ". . Cliff,
Just how has this little tune influenced you? . ."
I'll e-mail you a scan of my paystub.
2 DirectDeposit accounts.
One's mine, One's my ex's.
Guess who's is bigger . . . |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Just for the record, "Crossroads" by Robert Johnson.
(Watchman ..."suede"...truely intelligent people can spel any word multipull ways |
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Location: central nj | TAXMAN....by the Beatles. No doubt about it. And I am really not a Beatles fan. Or should it be TACK$$$MAN or TAX$$$MAN...you get the idea. |
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Location: Atlanta GA | I'm ashamed to admit it but... That was one of the options my word processor offered, and I turned it down. |
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Location: closely held secret | "She Loves You" - Beatles
"Here Comes The Bride" had a powerful influence on Cliff. Now he plays the blues... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Classic hits of the 60's, 70's and 80's! (1570-1580).
Suede!
ad to get back inline with the jist of this post - Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon. It was the first time (for me) that a whole album could be, and had to be, listened to at once and continuous!
The tech was leading and the lyrics provoking. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by cliff:
Guess who's is bigger . . . And women claim size doesn't matter...
(please allow me to apologize preemptorily for being a pig)
...Watchman...is that how you spell "preemptorily??? :confused: |
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Location: NJ | ". . It was the first time (for me) that a whole album could be, and had to be, listened to at once and continuous! . .
Jethro Tull's "Thick As a Brick". |
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Location: Atlanta GA | Hellifiknow... I'm going to have to find another board if you guys are going to continue to use those college words. I'm spending more time in the dictionary than I am playing my guitar. |
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Location: Snellville, GA | "Dark Side of the Moon" the album. |
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Location: Tampa, FL | Disraeli Gears
I believe that at this time Cream and Ginger Baker kind of invented the concept of "Lead Drummer' |
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Location: Midland, MI | I don't know about changing the direction of music in general, but...On Top of Old Smokey, Sweet Violets, Five Foot Two and others sure changed my direction.
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Location: closely held secret | I think the Uke changed your direction - the songs are just mileposts. |
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Location: Malden, Massachusetts | ...listened to at once and continuous...
I know you guys are all old enough to remember that we still had to turn the record over!
Even when the cassette came out.
It was such a pain to get up when you were just getting comfortable. ( roll another one )
Of course, now if you play Dark Side or Thick Brick in their "continous" CD format - you'll probably have to get up to pee before it's over. |
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Location: closely held secret | ...ouchie. Or fall asleep. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Ok, so where are we? Votes are in for the following...
Sgt Pepper, Rock Around The Clock, Johnny B Goode, Blue Suede Shoes, Jailhouse Rock, Thick As A Brick, Crossroads, Taxman, She Loves You, Disraeli Gears and a couple of votes for not a song but an entire album that had an effect on music in general. Interesting...
Any thoughts about classic Beach Boys, Dylan or maybe even Woody Guthrie? The Boss? Did any one song from the Stones alter the direction? Or did they all just help guide it along the path it was headed in anyway? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by WeaserP:
Did any one song from the Stones alter the direction? Or did they all just help guide it along the path it was headed in anyway? Just cause I'm icthin' for a fight.... The Stones played circles round the Beatles even if they weren't more influntial (and that's arguable) |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Maybe you should scratch that itch with a dictionary...? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | that's how it's spelled here in the Vahginyah Hills. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I stand corrected (and, once again, very amused). :D |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | The original topic was "a song that changed the direction of music." To me that means a song that started something new and was used as a springboard by other artists to create new sounds, vocal styles, lyrics, song arrangements. Something groundbreaking and influential. Within each genre of popular music there are many songs that would fit the description, such as:
Pop vocal: Be My Baby- Ronnettes featuring Phil Sector's "wall of sound"
Punk: God Save the Queen- Sex Pistols
Rock Insrumental: In Memory of Elizabeth Reed- Allman Brothers
Rock/Classical: Pictures at an Exhibition- ELP
"Acid" Rock: You Keep Me Hangin' On- Vanilla Fudge
DoWop: Runaround Sue- Dion
Motown: Stop in the Name of Love- Supremes
Heavy Metal: Paranoid- Black Sabbath
Rock Opera: Tommy- Who
Perhaps others may want to add to the list, but you get the point.
Still, as far a Rock 'N Roll goes, Johnny B. Goode is the grand-daddy song. Virtually every rock band does some version of the basic 3 chord progression with the instrumental guitar solo "bridge." |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Well thought out, Mitch, and that is exactly what I was asking for - a song that altered the direction of it's genre or, if possible, music in general. I know I didn't tell everybody this upfront but as the genuine thinker in the group, you my friend, can have tomorrow off. The rest of you will report at 8 as usual and Jeff will be charged with bringing the doughnuts.
By the way, I think it's time to give the "List" answer and we can all take turns ripping this apart or supporting it. Gentlemen, start your engines.
The song that was most influential in changing the direction of music as a whole was (drumroll please)...Elvis' That's All Right, Momma.
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Location: closely held secret | "a song that changed the direction of music."
To me this means music that makes people really take notice and listen, and generates inumerable imitations.
But having said that, I don't know if it's possible to say one song ever did that. I think it's possible that certain artists or groups have done that.
Woody Guthrie? The father of folk music.
Chuck Berry? May not have invented rock & roll, but you hear his name and that's what you think of.
The Beach Boys weren't the first or only to play surf rock, but that's who's identified with it. Gershwin? Scott Joplin? Of course. Zappa, tho I don't think anyone's really been able to imitate him.
Sorry Jeff, I like(d) the Stones also, but I don't think there's any argument that the Beatles probably had more influence on modern rock than any band since, as witnessed by the fact that 40 years later, a lot of pop music has it's roots in their songs.
I guess my point is, it's the gift that comes along once in a while, like a gifted mathematician, or surgeon, or poet - what they do affects a change, because their style is imitated.
What if Chuck Berry had only recorded one song? Suppose Lennon/McCartney or Jagger/Richards had gone separate ways after the first album? What if Ozzy hadn't bitten the head off that bat? Or Phil Spector had gone into real estate?
Enough philosophy. Back to the uke. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I think I would have to disagree. I think to a large extent, especially given the time period of racial division in the US, a "black" song recorded by a young white boy and becoming as big as it did, enormously changed the scene. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | While not the first I think the Beatles did more to influence music and style. To that end the credit really needs to go to George Martin who oversaw getting it all on record. |
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Location: NJ | I seem to remember reading that in another thread . . . where the question was posed as to who was the most "talented" Beatle . . . and one extremely clever individual came up with Geo. Martin.
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Location: Carle Place, NY | I agree with cwk2.
It was George Martin's idea to have a string quartet back-up Paul's vocal and acoustic guitar on Yesterday.
Yesterday is the most recorded song in history- making it perhaps the most influential song? |
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Location: Snellville, GA | The Doors "Light My Fire". |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I honestly didn't think keeping this on topic would be such a challenge.
It's a good thing I like all you guys... |
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Location: Tampa, FL | Yesterday beats White Christmas? |
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Important Tunes |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Nice to see that "F**k Da Police" by NWA made the list of important tunes. Not surprising from an outfit like NPR. |
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Location: closely held secret | Weaser, that's my point. In the case of 'That's all right, Mama', it was a white boy singing a black song. Do you think it would have been as influential at that time if a black man had recorded it?
It wasn't the song, so much as the singer.
Bill, when I say Beatles, I never forget George Martin. To me, he is always the '5th' Beatle. Sorry, I just didn't mention him. But how many of us would ever have heard of him if he hadn't been producing Lennon & McCartney songs? True, he has worked with other artists (Jeff Beck, America, Elton John, Little River Band, Cheap Trick, etc) but he is famous as the Beatles producer forever.
Chatman, yes, Yesterday beats White Christmas as the most 'recorded' song. :D |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | Chatman:
Yesterday is the most recorded song, meaning the song recorded by the most artists. White Christmas may be the biggest selling, but not the most recorded. By 1972 there were 1186 known versions of Yesterday.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6595858/sort/rank?pagei... |
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Location: closely held secret | I agree with ya there, Dave.
Looks like these were the ones that were 'important' to whoever compiled the list.
Over 2500 versions of 'Yesterday' now.
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Oops. Make that over 3000 . |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I see your point, Waskel, and it's certainly a fair one but I think that it was the song. If he sang another somewhat benign song, say (I Can't Help) Falling In Love With You, would it have made the impact? Sure, he was made of gold and was going to go to the top even singing Come On, Be Happy but his first recording was an influential one (IMHO).
Panel? What say you? |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Concise, to the point and fair enough.
Anyone who does have an opinion? |
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Location: closely held secret | I see your point as well, Weas... Perhaps it's a serendipitous combination of both? |
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Location: WV | On a more personal note the song that altered my life was "Why Don't We Get Drunk And Screw" by Buffett. He's my second son and we named him John David :eek: |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Well, nothing solved but nothing spilled either. Good conversation is always fun, especially when it involves great music (a bunch of which was brought up today). Thanks people - I walked around the office all day today with tunes in my head that I haven't heard in a long time.
And I loved it. For that reason I'm really going to miss all of you come tour time. |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by Waskel:
I think the Uke changed your direction - the songs are just mileposts. How right you are..unfortunately, I've managed to hit many of them along the way. :) |
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Location: East Tennessee | Over The Rainbow.
Eric Clapton does a nice version of this. :D |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Ok.
When that short guy on Star Search made those long-stretch-it-out-high-notes and pretty soon everyone had to do the same!
When the Animals did House of the Rising Sun on television and you got four chords and pure attitude from the rythym guitarist (what was his name)! That changed music my friend! |
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| The theme song from "The Andy Griffith Show"...
(actually, the last Glen Campbell concert I saw Glen said the #1 all time seller was "Yesterday", and #2 was "Gentle On My Mind"...go figure.."Blue Christmas" was up there too)
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Location: Powder Springs, Ga. | "Daniel Amos: The Alarma Chronicles",
The entire album had a great influence on me. Life changing. |
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Location: Paris/France | "Rubber Soul" by the Beatles!!
This album is for me the real birth of Pop Music in the 60's... :cool:
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Location: Australia | I'll confine myself to the era of music I'm post passionate about.
Hound Dog - Elvis
Mr Tamborine Man - The Byrds
Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys
Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan
Strawberry Feilds Forever - The Beatles |
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Location: Germantown, MD | Revolver. If Revolver had never been recorded, I don't think there would have been a Rubber Soul or Sgt. Pepper--or any of the other albums that grew out of that.
Peace,
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Location: Los Angeles, CA | Um. . .
Rubber Soul -- 1965
REVOLVER -- 1966
Sgt. Pepper -- 1967
I love Revolver, but Rubber Soul came first. |
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You folks will love this one