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| Since the question occurred to me I haven't been anywhere near a PA - do the XLR and the 1/4" work simultaneously on my Custom Legend? I've used both but it didn't cross my mind to try when I had the chance. (Story of my life) |
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| Bump.
It may be dumb, but it is a serious question. |
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Location: NJ | Never had the pleasure of a owning a unit with such, . . . but I would THINK that when you plugged one in, the other cancels, but I dunno . . . |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Scroeder,
Lets see if i can recall this based on previous discussions..
they work simultaneously. The XLR powers your pre-amp by phantom power, however the onboard tuner still works off the battery. so for whatever reason the phantom power doesn't run the Onboard Tuner.I've never had persobal experience with the XLR, Just try to keep up with what is posted on the subject.Someone else may chime in on this to verify. anyway, hope it helps. |
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| Cheers.
Kind of begs the question - most phantom power on PA/Acoustic amps is 48v. Does the O preamp take this in it's stride or does it give you a very hot armpit? |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by MrDano:
Plug it in man - plug it in!
I have the xlr going straight into a mixer, I have the 1/4 into a Fishman blender - 2 totally different tones. Kinda like having 3 top end guitars for one low price!
Dano BUT - he doesn't really say if he had them plugged in at the same time...
Haven't any of you '05 owners tried this yet?? |
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Location: SoCal | Schroeder, That is a good question. I have numerous Acoustic amps with XLR phantom and numerous O's with the XLR-1/4" combination.
It would be interesting if they both worked simultaneously.
This weekend, I will check it out for you.
I will first read the manual for one of my O's w/Life Time warranty for guidance/warnings from the Creator.
I'll check my own Life Insurance Policy too. |
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| Thank you Noah - as always you are kind beyond the call of duty.
Remember - "let's be careful out there." |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | If I were home I could test it out for you, But, as I am on the road it will have to wait. It was all I could do to get you up and running again on the OFC board.
Noah,
If you make it first, careful about creating wormholes. |
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Location: Tennessee | I've actually done it ... yes they do work simultaneously on my Optima-equipped 6759. I was playing around with the stonebobbo wall-of-sound by going 1/4", XLR, and two condensers pointed at the bridge and down the neck, all into a 16 track with various pans and effects on the different channels. Fun to do, but you gotta have the right song and desired sound for it to be worth a damn, not to mention guitar skills that yours truly doesn't possess. |
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Did it need the phantom power or did the battery power them both?
I like the idea of a clean sound on one and an effects loop on the other. I was thinking about an A/A/B box when I thought about the 2 outs. If they do both work simultaneously without the need for phantom power it looks like another missed opportunity at the marketing dept.
jeff
Nice work on the server. |
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Location: Tennessee | I used the Phantom power integrated into the inputs on my mixer/recorder to power the xlr channel. I don't recall trying it without phantom power as it is routine for me when going xlr into the board.
I can try it later tonight when I get home and post the results. |
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| Thank you guys - I've got a horrible feeling I could be responsible for a sudden outbreak of house fires in California.
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I assume the phantom power off your mixer is 48v? |
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Location: Tennessee | No worries, I could use the money.
Yes. 48v. |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Schroeder,
Back to the beginning this post..Your question is not Dumb at all. You probably figured that out already. Heck I'm even learning. |
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Location: NJ | as they say in spinal tap "there are no stupid questions, just stupid people" |
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Location: Tennessee | OK Schroeder, I checked it out with my 2000 Collectors with an Optima. xlr out and 1/4 out both worked fine with no phantom power on the xlr channel. I got the same output level from both channels going into my mixer/recorder. |
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| Brilliant.
Thank you guys.
I love this place. |
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Location: Tennessee | No problem. And no fire. :) |
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Location: NW NJ | I have an Adamas SMT with the XLR and 1/4" out. The XLR definitely needs phantom. |
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Since the 1/4" jack activates the internal battery to power the preamp, I wonder what happens if you turn on the phantom power while having both of them plugged in? Will the 48 volts bother the battery? |
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Location: Tennessee | WorshipLeader ... you definitely need phantom power if you go just xlr OR you need a dummy plug (which Ovation sells) to activate the preamp with battery power. When I plugged the 1/4" in, it automatically activated the preamp. I should note that I used (and have always used with no ill effects) a standard mic xlr cable.
When I was goofing around, I went ahead and toggled the phantom power on and off during the testing to see what would happen (yup, I always think of the possible downside of things AFTER I try them out -- :eek: ). No smoke, fires, pops, or electric current coursing through my extremities. Battery seems OK. Ovations are tough SOBs. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | To add one...
On my 12 if I use an Instrument cable I do not need the dummy plug. If I use a microphone cable (all XLR) I need the Dummy Plug.
This is of course with the 9v battery in the DI box so I don't know what is going through what? That's why I became a Rigger. |
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Location: SoCal | Schroeder, I spent my spare time this weekend experimenting. Thank you for bringing this up, I had a great time. No house fires or fried electronics. I forgot how much I liked that XLR-out. Looks like you stirred up the mad scientist in everyone else also. I did not think of checking back on the thread sooner. Looks like your question was answered. |
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| I always like other people to take my risks for me.
Thanks ;) |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | That's what we like about you schroeder. Let others take the risk so you don't have to.
not until you wind up witha straight answer anyway. |
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Really dumb question