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Location: USA | Sadly my new 2005 has issues. After playing it for a few days I noticed that the notes in the higher frets were a little sharp. I took it to my Luthier friend and the prognosis was bad, pitch problem from the neck to the body and a little twist. That is why the action was so high and according to him was probably not fixable. The good news is GC is going to get me a new one, should be in next week. This 2005 is going back to ovation.
I don’t know if it's important as I have no idea what happens to Collectors Edition Guitars if they have problems, but the serial number was 412 so that might be one to watch out for. |
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Location: Warren, OH | I checked mine - things are a little sharp at the 12th fret. Hasn't been enough to bother me. Anyone else who can comment? |
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Location: SoCal | When I got mine, checked it out (to the 12th fret) and the intonation was perfect. |
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Location: USA | Hey Bob
The other thing on mine was the action. It was really high and that was what led my guitar guy to look at the neck pitch. The thing he said that caught my attention was that this kind of problem tends to get worse with age. If your not sure it might not hurt to have someone look at it just for your peace of mind. Yours might just need a little adjustment.
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Location: Peoria, Illinois | Dan,
Sorry to hear that. I will take a close look at mine tonight. |
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Location: Converse, Texas | The action on mine was a little high. Took it to a shop and they removed one of the shims. Now it's better than before. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | My intonation is perfect and the action is low.
I do however have some yellow spots on the binding.
Gonna take care of the U681 issues and then talk to the mothership about the '05 cosmetic issue. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by stephent28:
I do however have some yellow spots on the binding. Stephen, I had yellow spots as well. Take a little "softscrub" or "barkeepers friend" and gently scrub the binding and the spots should clean up. Dave |
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Location: closely held secret | I understood Cliff was the "barkeepers friend". |
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Location: NJ | . . . it all depends upon the amount of cleavage and how close to the floor the beer cooler is . . . |
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Location: USA | Really this was a good experience I learned a lot about what to look for in a guitar and how little I knew about the finer details of guitar construction. All my previous instruments were pawn shop/garage sale specials.
The guys at my local Guitar Center were great. The minute I had issues they were ready to get a new 2005 in ASAP, no questions asked.
The interesting bit is how intricate a guitar really is, how close the tolerances have to be and how little room for error there is to get a really fine instrument. Remember were talking about 64ths if an inch. All this when working with wood, which sometimes has mind of its own. The problem with my 2005 was really very subtle I had to look long and hard to see it even after it was pointed out to me. The intonation at the 12th fret was just a little off if I wasn’t running scales I would have probably never noticed it until I tried to get the action lowered. Its almost amazing that anyone can make a good guitar.
Can’t wait to get my new 2005, should be in next week
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave,
Maybe the brain is fuzzy today but I am not familiar with either of those products. Can you be a bit more specific for the intellectually challenged? |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Stephen, they are probably in the kitchen section of your grocery store; they're meant for cleaning sinks and metal surfaces without scratching. Barkeepers Friend is an old item for cleaning rust off of metal gently also, used to use it on chrome bumpers on cars.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by stephent28:
I am not familiar with either of those products. What Roger said. Geez, Stephen maybe we don't want to look at how clean your kitchen is ??? Just kidding. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | My wife takes care of the cleanliness.
I contribute to the mess so she can keep busy ;) |
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Location: closely held secret | Anyone know what the total production on 05 will be? |
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Location: NJ | If they're as nice as everyone's been saying, and they keep selling 'em, if Ovation's smart they'll stop makin' 'em around 3pm on Dec. 31st, '05 . . . |
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Location: closely held secret | They actually had one at GC when I picked up my 6778LX. But for $550 more, I couldn't make myself do it.
The Elite is so sweet sounding and pretty, and I just didn't see that much difference in the quality.
Desirable? Absolutely. Maybe I'll pick one up in a few years... |
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Location: Warren, OH | Originally posted by Bob Mintus:
I checked mine - things are a little sharp at the 12th fret. Hasn't been enough to bother me. Anyone else who can comment? Upon further review I retract my previous statement. It's dead on. Must have been my careless fingers after a long night of playing...
There was never an issue with the action. |
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Location: NJ | it you grab the neck with a death grip it will play sharp no matter where you fret. |
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Location: USA | It appears I found the only bad 2005 Collectors in existance. I was a little leary buying it because it was so new. New one should be here Wednesday |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave, I gently scrubbed my ass off with the "soft scrub". Helped a little but the 3 spots are still quite visible.
Guess I gonna try the "barkeeper's friend". Where do I find that? |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Dan, thanks for letting everyone know about it, it helped. I THOROUGHLY checked over the one I bought before dropping the money because of your post. And mine is awfully close to the one you had numerically (I have 388, I believe you had 412).
Action might be a touch high, but I'm fine with it. The sound is soooooo good, I would never change anything.
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Location: Warren, OH | Originally posted by alpep:
it you grab the neck with a death grip it will play sharp no matter where you fret. I never thought that I was that strong! |
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Location: NJ | the point is you don't have to be that strong |
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Location: Midwest.. where all us religious rednecks hate peo | Preacher Dan quote:
"Sadly my new 2005 has issues".
This could be complicated. Wood products "can" have issues. I'm going to forward your letter to Dr. Phil and see what he suggests.
How has the guitar been treated? Has it been exposed to other guitars? There are many factors here. I promise, I'll get back to you as soon as I hear something. I know that this must be a difficult time for you.
Dr. Ovation. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Dr. Ovation, I suggest you call in someone with ACOUSTIC experience to consult, your credentials suggest that you are an ELECTRIC specialist.....
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Location: south east Michigan | I suspect the good doctor is more at home under a bridge. Let's not feed the troll. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I can really unfortunately vouch for the "playing the strings sharp" issue. I always thought I had a light touch, but somewhere along the line I got into a bad habit mostly on barre chords of pressing to hard with my 4th and 5th fingers (pinky and next-to-pinky). This would happen more on a wide neck guitar. It was frustrating to "trouble-shoot" as I would play the parts by myself, and they'd sound fine. The other guitar player would go to add his part and it was like one of us was out of tune. We'd re-check tuning, play the parts on each others guitars etc. etc etc. Luckly he was also an accomplished instructor of 20+ years and caught what I was doing. It was not a fun habit to break. |
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Location: USA | Hey Rodger
I’m glad it helped. The good news is the problem I had was a fluke. From everything I have read on this site and others the 2005 Collectors is a real winner for Ovation and those of us who have one.
What I would like to know is what happens to a defective Collectors when they go back to Ovation., especially what happens to a particular serial number. Is a new guitar given that number or is the original fixed and reissued as factory reconditioned.
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by stephent28:
Dave, I gently scrubbed my ass off with the "soft scrub". Helped a little but the 3 spots are still quite visible.
Guess I gonna try the "barkeeper's friend". Where do I find that? Stephen, with 3 visible spots you can't scrub off, and now no ass, perhaps you'd find the barkeeper more helpful than his friend. :D
You might want to stand at the bar from now on, however... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Thanks Waskel,
It's advice like that, that keeps me coming back to the OFC!
Seriously tho.....If I can't get them off, I guess I will have to send back to the mothership for repair. It definately spoils an otherwise flawless guitar. |
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Location: closely held secret | I hear ya, Stephen. I'm probably going to exchange my 6778LX. It has some 'interesting' grain patterns when seem close up. However, from 2+ feet away they look disturbingly like finish flaws.
I know they're not, but they bother me every time I see them. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Dan, I bet it is repaired and reissued as an FRG with the same number. IF it can be repaired. Yours might require a different neck.
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Location: USA | The saga is over, I think I have a keeper, the third time is a charm. the second one had a ding on the face. This one is pristine. Ill have my guitar guy look at it and do a setup on it next week
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