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Location: Peoria, Illinois | I am going to open myself up to the group with this question. I have a high end, limited edition Taylor (XXX-RS), and am thinking about selling it to fund a U681T. I read all the posts in "Look what UPS delivered", so I am aware of some of the issues with this instrument.
I am afraid that the Taylor is going to sit in the case, as being "too nice to play". It is a really nice instrument, and one that over time will be nice to have. Just not sure I will sit on it that long. The Adamas however, should see more action.
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Location: NJ | the Adamas is one of the best sounding and playing guitars that they have made. |
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Location: SoCal | Taylor makes a nice guitar. But if you did a blind sound test of the Taylor and the U681, I think you'd be surprised at the results.
Ovations are meant to be taken out and used. Taylors are meant to be...... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | The U681T is a sound monster and one of the best guitars Ovation has ever made. There have been some complaints about cosmetics but no one has dissed the sound.
Make the move....I am 95% sure you won't believe how much better the O sounds.....and like Paul mentioned, it is meant to be taken out and used, not stored under the bed for future eye candy. |
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Location: boulder | hi,
I LOVE the tone and playability (?) of the u681t. I have played it every day that it and I have been in the same house together. I am more then happy with it and would buy it again, sight unseen in a heartbeat. ....but then again this is just my 1.5 cents worth. mike |
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Location: Orange County, California | I recently heard a really competant guitarist Marc Seal (www.marc seal.com) try to play an acoustic lead-solo-set on a Taylor belonging to the lady who leads worship at our church. Now, let me start by saying the Talyor is very nice (not sure what series). I played it a couple of weeks before and thought it was out of my league, but Marc was way too much guitarist for it. he kept tweaking the expression system try to get it to respond correctly to the licks he was laying down. I wasn't working for his style, and I told him as much. I handed him my U681T. He had to set down the brand new American Strat (really nice) he had just received and proceeded to try for "the limit" of the 681. Everything from fast light arpegios to full on power chords just sang. He didn't want to hurt me feelings so he just said what what eveyone says "Wow, this thing plays really nice!!" There is one downside. I have to be VERY careful when I play it in a small group setting, because if I make a mistake, EVERYONE will hear it. |
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| jim, your xxx-rs sounds & looks incredibly good. very collectible too. u681 sounds good too. i've been telling people to buy it since day 1. if i were you, i would keep the taylor & get u681 also.
buy from major store like www.music123.com
the adamas they get from the factory should be of high quality.
$1700 + shipping (or $1749 Free shipping)
$59/month with no interest
or get a used one for around $1200 in few months.
people will sell the blemished ones quietly. |
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Location: Peoria, Illinois | Mr. Adamas,
I hate to say I agree with your advice, but I do. I cannot let the Taylor go. But I want that Adamas............ |
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| just buy it. $59/month with no interest.
can't beat the price. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Jim, You'll reget letting that Taylor go. It's a nice one and very difficult to replace in the future when you change your mind. Of course same thing is true about the U681. Sucks when there's two expensive, beautiful things and you want both of them. I'm in a similar quandry over my wife vs. my lover. JUST KIDDING, DEAR !!! |
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Location: So. Cal. | ".....buy from major store like www.music123.com
the adamas they get from the factory should be of high quality. "
Mr Adamas, are you implying smaller dealers will get guitars of lesser quality otherwise. I may have misunderstood you, so please correct me if I am mistaken. I don't think the size or location of dealers make any difference to the quality of the guitars. It's a pity some guitars escaped QC with problems, but I don't think the shipping department knows which ones are better to send to bigger dealers. |
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| can you tell the difference between "of high quality" & "of highER quality"?
i totally understand why you misunderstood coz 9 out of 9 u681 sold by 1 small dealer had problems. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | It's almost feeding time ... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | It wasn't the dealers fault.
It was the factory that sent them out so put the blame where it is due....poor QC checking at the door! |
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Location: SoCal | Those of us that bought our 12-frets from Al took advantage of the fact that Al placed some of the first orders...check some of the serial numbers being sold by the "big" stores. Our orders were made well before NAMM. We had them in our hands before the other stores had them in inventory.
As we have observed, it was some of the first production that had a problem.
When we had a problem, we were able to talk directly with our dealer, not just one of the staff of a larger dealer.
Al has gone "to bat" for us to help resolve our concerns.
Al's price on my new 2004-2005 purchases have yet to be beat by any of the "large stores." My purchases include two 30th Anniv CL's, a demo 30th CL Anniv, two 1777LX's, tenor uke, 2005 Collector's, and the 12-fret. In each case, I have not been disappointed in my dealer.
Personally, I will continue to go directly to Al for any new Ovation, Adamas, or Hamer product.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I like a good conspiracy theory as much as anyone, but let's be real here. With all due respect to my friends in the factory, there's NO WAY these guys are sly enough to run a sophisticated scam that intentionally diverts lessor quality product to small dealers. It just does not happen. There are reasons to buy from a large on-line chain, and there are reasons not to. Everyone makes their own determination. But to think there is a pre-dispositioned difference in product quality between the two is just too far fetched. Dave |
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Location: NJ | PLEASE
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Location: SoCal | Too late Al. You've already had dinner at my house. |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | Not even Purina troll chow? |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Please!! When feeeding Trolls Only feed them Purina Troll Chow! Its' in the Manual somewhere. :D |
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Location: Upper Left USA | That would explain the one on the right!!!
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Dang - I miss that guitar! Why'd you have to remind me? I used to have a matching sports coat that I'd wear while playing out. It used to make the audience dizzy. Dave |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | You had audiences? |
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Location: NJ | . . . one of his (many) chequered delusions . . . |
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Location: Upper Left USA | All I can see is the Tom Petty music video where they are cutting into the cake/Alice. Gotta quit having pizza for breakfast. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
You had audiences? Don't confuse "entertainment" with "talant". |
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Location: closely held secret | Because entertainment is everywhere. There's only one talant.
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Location: NJ | Good One there, Witko . . . . .
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| "i totally understand why you misunderstood coz 9 out of 9 u681 sold by 1 small dealer had problems. "
Am I alone in being ofended here? |
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Location: NJ | Leave it be.
It's just childishness that you're better off not knowing about . . . . |
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Location: NJ | It can't be me I only sold 6 guitars.
wish I sold 9. I need the $$$ |
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| While you're on line al, any sign yet? My wife caught be chewing the carpet last night........ |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Schroeder - I hate to give advice (right!), but if I was you I would edit your post asap and fix the spelling. Of course you have an excuse being english and all that - but these guys around here will be all over you like white on rice. Trust me. Or maybe it's just me they gang-tackle. Tackel? tackle? Ahhh, skrew it.
PS - I see there is a "Nancy, France". That's really funny because I once dated a girl named Francine Nance. Cliff knows all about it. |
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| "Cliff knows all about it."
Spy cams again eh? |
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| BTW - been to Nancy several times. Great audiences and a really nice place. Really good freedom fries as well. |
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| Cliff, I am afraid it's not just childishness...may I say evil? |
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Location: Midland, MI | Dave, I don't see anything wrong with Schroeder's post. I mean, unless it was someone else's^H^H^H^H^H...nevermind, I can't do it. Cliff?
ObTopicOfTaylors: Played a $3k Taylor something (model must have been ALOA..A Lot Of Abalone), a $1.6k Takamine Santa Fe (hey, w2, they brought back the indian blanket rosette!) and a $400 Korean Breedlove. For the money, I'd take the Korean Breedlove. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I've played that model Breedlove!
Couldn't believe the quality and sound on a guitar that was selling for so little. |
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| 9 out of 9 u681 owners complained about QC problem.
who blamed the dealer? someone with reading comprehension problem jumped to the conclusion. |
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can you tell the difference between "of high quality" & "of highER quality"?
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| guess everyone was confused by the infamous thread "UPS just delivered" that complained about u681 QC problem & thought all 9 were sold by you. |
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| guess everyone was confused by the infamous thread "UPS just delivered" that complained about u681 QC problem & thought all 9 were sold by you. Everyone? hardly. it was mostly you! |
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| seriously i was confused too ... if you guys read carefully in the thread "u681 on ebay", i asked people to buy from AL too. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by cruster:
Dave, I don't see anything wrong with Schroeder's post. I mean, unless it was someone else's^H^H^H^H^H...nevermind, I can't do it. Cliff? Huh? Cruster, You misunderstood. I took a small amount of abuse from Waskel and Cliff for mis-spelling "talant". Then Schroeder mis-spelled "ofended" so I jokingly advised him to fix it before he got pounced on like I did.
You're weaving in and out of the other topic in this thread. I'm not involved in the whole Mr.A thing. |
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Location: Scotland | See, the whole thing about the internet is that you can make up a screen name and be anonymous. Or, if you have serious psychosis you can create yet another screen name and become the message-board equivalant of herpes. Mr Adamas/E*&as or whoever you want to be, please get a fucking life and let the rest of us play nicely. |
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| haha, i now know what happened ... i am not elias as some smart axx thought ... LOL |
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Location: Scotland | Hang on, I said E*&as, not elias,
Listen fuckwit, if you want to cross swords with me, at least get your grammar, spelling, capitalisation, punctuation and English at least reasonably correct, otherwise I will assume you are a simpleton and refer you to the appropriate authorities |
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| did i spell his name correctly?
take a look at your own writing, mr. simpleton. |
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Location: Scotland | Click, and I suggest everyone else does likewise |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by Standingovation:
Originally posted by cruster:
Dave, I don't see anything wrong with Schroeder's post. I mean, unless it was someone else's^H^H^H^H^H...nevermind, I can't do it. Cliff? Huh? Cruster, You misunderstood. I took a small amount of abuse from Waskel and Cliff for mis-spelling "talant". Then Schroeder mis-spelled "ofended" so I jokingly advised him to fix it before he got pounced on like I did.
You're weaving in and out of the other topic in this thread. I'm not involved in the whole Mr.A thing.
I am not now, never was (at least not knowingly), and don't care to be in the future, involved in any DSWs on the OFC (or elsewhere). There are about 3k people here whom I would call 'friend.' There is no interest from this anonymous coward (although I'm really not anonymous) in participating, other than as a viewer in the peanut gallery, in flame wars (unless they're about religion, politics or TayMarGibDers).
I hope that clears it up. And I apologize for attempting to make a joke about Schroeder. Can't we all just get along?
Some helpful advice I once read somewhere: Never enter into a pissing contest with a race horse.
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| giuseppe, i didn't feel like joining because of the "war" on this board few years ago.
your 1st thread was exxx's guitar ad. are you mr. e? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | This thread is like an oozing zit. If you just leave it alone it will go away all by itself. But if you keep picking at it you'll eventually have a permanent scar. Dave |
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Location: SoCal | Squeeze and Pop! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | So Dave,
Where do I find "Barkeepers friend"? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by stephent28:
So Dave,
Where do I find "Barkeepers friend"? I bought it in the grocery store, with the home cleaners like Ajax, etc. If you can't find it let me know and I'll send you some. Dave |
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| from cruster
"And I apologize for attempting to make a joke about Schroeder. Can't we all just get along?"
Absolutely not and I will be instructing my lawyer forthwith. I would challenge you to weapons at Dawn but she told me she rarely gets up before noon. A lucky escape my lad.
Sorry if me chiming in originally reopened an old wound here - it was pure ignorance on my part. And an inability to keep my keyboard shut. I'll try and do better in future. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Personally, I like Moody's "squeeze and pop" approach, but it hasn't been successful lately. Yesterday I shaved over one and now the wound keeps opening. I thought I would get passed this when I turned 50 a few years ago.
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Location: Orange County, California | Mark, Maybe you should try some Barkeepers Friend on that. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by stephent28:
So Dave,
Where do I find "Barkeepers friend"? You can buy it on line
http://www.barkeepersfriend.com/products.htm |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | It's also regularly stocked at "Bed Bath & Beyond" stores and some supermarkets. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave, Mitch,
I found it today at a different grocery chain. Thanks for the help. Now to see if it works better than the soft scrub. |
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Sell a Taylor to get a U681T-5?