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Joined: May 2005 Posts: 327
Location: Evansville,IN | Let me start off by saying I like most guitars.
Not wanting to offend anyone, but I have never seen the fascination with acoustic guitars. I like electrics, as they offer such a diverse spectrum of colors and shapes. :)
Am I not "right", feeling this way? |
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| "Am I not "right", feeling this way?"
That would be correct. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6197
Location: Phoenix AZ | Not offending at all. Everyone has their own preferences. I bet there are members here that don't see the fascination with 'lectric guitars. So what, to each his own.
Me personally? I think the violin (and all it's weird cousins) is just about the stupidest thing there is. A ricketty little fragile box with friction tuners and you drag this horsehair rod across it and make it screetch. But you know what? I bought one and couldn't master it and now have profound admiration for anyone who does.
It's all good.
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Joined: August 2004 Posts: 604
Location: Tampa, FL | Hey GC, I know just what you mean about not understanding. I can't figure out why someone would want to have to always locate a power source, get plugged in and fiddle with knobs and such when you have a perfectly fine music source at hand. If only you had a proper resonating chamber and good tone wood top to facilitate it.
I suppose it's all in what you want to hear yourself produce. Me, I'm an acoustic kind of guy. |
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| Did you know that George Benson bought himself a violin the minute he made some money because he always wanted one? He's been learning for about 20 years now. He says he's still crap. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | The older you are the tougher it is to learn. I took violin lessons for a while and my teacher had a group shot of all 50 of her students. 49 Asian kids under the age of 10 ... and ME (middle aged white guy). I wish I had the photo, it was really funny. But I suspect Cliff or Woody are whipping something up on photoshop as we speak ... Dave |
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Joined: June 2004 Posts: 365
Location: NC | I have all three...............or what I consider the three spectrums of guitar:
-The totally acoustic
-The acoustic/electric
-The totally electric
I like all of them.
I will say this, my acoustic only seems to project a louder tone than the acoustic electric. But I still like my "O" best. |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 1922
Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | I "hear" the siren call of electric guitars....my first guitar was an electric, and when I got back into playing 2 years ago, I bought a couple of electrics. But I realized that the acoustic guitar is the tool for the kind of music I want to make, and I sold them. I look at electrics, they are cool looking, but I know I wouldn't play it if I had it.
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Joined: May 2005 Posts: 327
Location: Evansville,IN | I do like the looks of acoustics. I guess it just the sounds that can be produced from electrics.
Don't get me wrong I may buy an acoustic once I learn how to play proficiently. I just can't justify it at this time. :)
Like was said to each their own. I really admire people who can play well. Doesn't matter what kind of music it is. :) |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 33
Location: Clermont FL | Playing Top 40 and Crossover music for most of my life required that I play electric guitars and a Guitorgan. But now my Ovation Elite is a joy for working out tunes for recordings. A great sound all of it's own without the help of electronics.
I love that guitar sound. Stu |
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Joined: October 2004 Posts: 180
Location: Chicagoland | I do and love both. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 1071
Location: Carle Place, NY | GC:
Have you ever played a really fine quality acoustic? |
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Location: Evansville,IN | Originally posted by Mitchrx:
GC:
Have you ever played a really fine quality acoustic? I can answer honestly, no. I'm just in the learning stages (2 months). A finely made guitar would be a waste on me. Like I said earlier, I may buy one once I learn to play.
Here's my musical history, grade school, song flute. High school, Beatles arrive want to be Paul McCartney, who didn't, buy Vox bass guitar, and amp, learn to play bass. Take a 38 year hiatus. Now learning to play guitar. I don't remember it being this hard to play bass, but I'm learning, again. :) |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987
Location: Upper Left USA | Intimacy.
There is a definite connection with an acoustic instrument when you pluck, strum or hammer it. It is more than the sound produced, it is the connection you have made. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Both are great and each can do things that the other can't. Quit worring about it and buy lots of both kinds. After all, it's just ice cream..... |
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Location: NJ | I own too many of both |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | You have to balance your guitar needs and use against your guitar wants. Some people are happy with just one axe. Some need a bunch. My wants are pretty much boundless. In terms of what I use, I have one steel string (MEWP), one nylon string (Country Artist), one electric (a telecaster copy) and a travel guitar (CC57). That seems to work for me. After you try an Adamas, thru an amp with a touch of chorus, you'll be blown away. Play some tex mex on a country artist (As serge points out the country artist name is a misnomer, because I see mostly latin players using it, but that's another thread )(think El Paso) ... well you'll see. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 349
Location: Snellville, GA | Listen to Neil Diamond "Hot August Night". Turn it up. Maybe you'll begin to understand. It's not about looks. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987
Location: Upper Left USA | When someone references that they enjoy Country Music I can't help but ask "Which Country?". |
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Joined: March 2004 Posts: 119
Location: Georgia USA | Cheese, I understand. I much prefer electric. I love my Deacon, and I once bought a very nice Strat. I have never really spent any money on an acoustic. I still play the only one I've ever owned... my Yamaha FG300 that my brother bought in 1975 and gave me 5 years later (it plays very well, by the way).
But having said that, I was reading the SELL/TRADE thread "Starter O" and never realized how accomodating the OFCers are at offering good guitars at great prices. I may try an acoustic O... AFTER I get a Viper some day. |
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Joined: May 2005 Posts: 327
Location: Evansville,IN | Like I said earlier in this thread, I admire anyone who plays well, be it guitar, violin, or even saxophone. You just have to admire the many years of practice and patience it took them to get to this point. Just hope I do as well years down the road. :)
I could use an acoustic at work, when I'm not busy. Just get it out and practice. This gives me an idea..... :D Honey I need it at work, so..... :D |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755
Location: Boise, Idaho | I started with an electric because I got it cheap. Then had an acoustic that was a finger buster. Sold both and got my first Ovation in 1977 and that was it for 25 years till I picked up a 12 string cheap. I never really played much until last Christmas, when my daughter bought her first acoustic/electric and I bought her a practice amp. I've had a lot of fun the last few months trying out the latest. I try to play every one every day, except for the 12 string. I spent about an hour the other night playing with all the different sounds I could get on the GS, played through my Behringer Blue Devil and its effects. Last night was acoustic night with the Classic, Collector's and Matrix.
As I told my wife, there are a million songs to learn and they are on a lot of different types of guitars. When I learn all those I'll start on piano. |
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Location: Clermont FL | Hey G C, A finely made instrument is never a waste on anyone. If you start with a good guitar you a miles ahead of the game. A good friend who is not a great picker has a Gibson Super 400, it gives him great joy. Get the best guitar you can afford (or can't afford). I have an acute case of G.A.S. for a full body archtop jazz guitar.. Stu |
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Joined: May 2005 Posts: 327
Location: Evansville,IN | I always try to buy the best and most I can for the money. Something my mom taught me early on :)
I was at the local pawn shop the other day looking for "different" guitars. Spotted an Ovation case, and casually said, "here's an Ovation", the guy there said, yeah, it's just an acoustic. There were stack of cases piled on one another. I opened it an saw this guitar with all these holes in the neck section of the body, don't have a clue as to what it is. Looked nice though, Might go back tomorrow and check it out. ;) |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I just bought my first electric guitar. They suck.
The strings feel like over cooked linguine. Strumming it creates a sound somewhat similar to an asthmatic dairy cow and they have all these extra frets that seem to make my dog walk out of the room...and no matter how hard I try, nothing even remotely sounding like Stevie Ray Vaughn comes out of it. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987
Location: Upper Left USA | Jeff,
You need to get an electric with a Deacon neck and put some Mediums on it. Then you'll have a "Man's" guitar to play! :D |
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Joined: April 2005 Posts: 76
Location: Chapin SC | the only guitar I've ever played, ever, is my ovation. I'd never considered getting another
one, I've never even plugged mine in to an amp.
it just sounds sweet the way it is. But I do
play it every day. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Quote from MWoody...
"Then you'll have a "Man's" guitar to play!"
that AND talent might help |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Talent? We don't need no stinking talent! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Easy for you guys with it to say...
Waskel, your track is really good. You suck ;) |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Jeff, what kind of electric did you buy?
I agree with CWK2...it's all good. But with that said here is my take on it...
GC Said
I like electrics, as they offer such a diverse spectrum of colors and shapes That comment by GC is undeniable. With acoustics you will never get all the awesome shapes, sizes, and colors that electrics can provide.....but after owning probably well over 100 elecrics in my lifetime, I have come to the conclusion that through a good amp and some effects, you can make almost any electric sound like any other within reason. I have sold off almost all my electrics because I have 5 that can produce pretty much any electric sound I can think of.
Acoustics, on the othe hand....ahhhhhhhh. Every different model has a different sound, smell, and flavor that is unique. You will never confuse an Ovation to a Martin or a Collins or a National and on and on.
That's why we collect so many different acoustic guitars. The good ones cannot be duplicated in either sound or feel and each one has a life of its own.
On a final note, most really good electric guitar players will admit that they write most of their material on acoustic guitar. Why? Because if it sounds good on acoustic it will sound good on electric (and the reverse is definately not true). |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by stephent28:
On a final note, most really good electric guitar players will admit that they write most of their material on acoustic guitar. Why? Because if it sounds good on acoustic it will sound good on electric (and the reverse is definately not true. I agree with Stephen on this. Even when I'm writing using my electric, it's unplugged. Electrics have a completely different feel from acoustics, so writing with them gives me different ideas, but trying to compose something with an amp blaring just does not work for me. Or my wife. :rolleyes:
Jeff: Thanks. I know I suck. That's why I bought a digital drum set. With a headphone jack.
Nothing worse than someone who can't play drums playing drums... |
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Joined: May 2005 Posts: 327
Location: Evansville,IN | My instructor uses an acoustic to write all his material. He is into a lot of jazz guitar, which is something I'm no where near capable of playing. :)
I'm learning, but it's a slow process. I have remembered everything I have played, so that helps. :) Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks. :D |
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Joined: May 2005 Posts: 3
Location: France | Hello has all,
I have just joined and I am going to appear.
My name is guy I am 52 years old I am francais and for 35 years I am fascinated by her(it)
American music (chet atkins, Merle travis, jerry Reed ..........)
Towards the age of 22 years I heard(understood) Marcel Dadi , Chet atkins, it was the révelation
My premiere guitar ovation was an acoustic custom balladeer and
No electro because premieres custom.balladeer was not electro
Later I pushed the vice has to meet dadi marcel who later
Was my friend grace also has another danielou friend Pierre.
Has the epoque of the A.D.G.P.A has Issoudun ( France) I remember that marcel and I
Sold pillows in fur ( shaved rabbit) reproduction ovation Elite,
One truth part(party) of fun Adamas.....
Marcel is not any more regrettably I always continue has to play the finger picking
I like the amérique and the Americans and live OVATION (bill Kaman). I have to send to him(her)
A present to have to create its magnificent guitars without forgetting his(her) father Charlie Kaman
I hope that to accepterer you a small francais (mmmm 52ans)
Amitiées has all
Guy |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Bienvenue, ChetDadi.
Cela vous ennuyerait de me couper les ongles des orteils? Ce brugnon est tres dur.
My francais is not very good, but welcome to the OFC. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Jeff W said
My francais is not very good, Just like everything else you do! :D
Come on man....send me a song! |
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Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2850
Location: Midland, MI | My French is fairly rusty, but I think Jeff just offered to trim ChetDadi's toenails and observed that the nectarines are hard.
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Location: France | You are great the lads of me to acceuillir so ......
I do not need be cut toenails
But ca makes nothing I aprécie you when meme
Go ahead cowboys! |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Whoops :confused:
My apologies. What I meant to say was,
Avez-vous un porc-épic coincé entre les fesses pour Pâques, alors? Je ne pense pas que les ris de veau se marient bien avec mon déjeuner.
I think that is the proper French salutation. |
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| Try "baise-moi". This will get a reaction at any time from anyone. |
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Location: Midland, MI | HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! That has to be painful, Jeff! Sorry to hear about your lunch, too. ;) |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Painful, yes :mad:
....but clean as a whistle afterward. :D |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ChetDadi,
This Guitar may be of interest to you. |
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Joined: May 2005 Posts: 3
Location: France | elle est super.
je recherche une adamas 1 ou 2
She is magnificent
I look for an adamas 1 or 2
Escuse me my English is not check |
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Joined: March 2004 Posts: 1388
Location: Paris/France | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Whoops :confused:
Avez-vous un porc-épic coincé entre les fesses pour Påques, alors? Je ne pense pas que les ris de veau se marient bien avec mon déjeuner.
I think that is the proper French salutation. Hi,
It's good to see that there's a lot of people who speak French on this board!!
I'm french and i've dicovered some new expressions!! :D
It's surely not the right place but if you want, I can give you some lessons.
I'm also speaking the real language of Paris!!
Very colourful...
Jérôme ;) |
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Location: Florida | Je parle un peu de francais, mais tres peu et tres mal..... :( |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Daniel,
No worries. This would be a good time to practice a bit. My grammer is good, but on ocassion, I get my vocabulary a bit mixed up.
I like to practice with lines that I know I can use on women, such as:
Je n'pas de Roquefort, je pense que ce sont mes chaussettes que vous reniflez.
That one has them falling at my feet.
Jérôme,
Any lessons are welcome. Mercí
ChetDadi,
Bon Chance avec le Adamas un/deux.
Avez-vous considéré le "reissue" Adamas? |
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Location: Paris/France | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Je n'pas de Roquefort, je pense que ce sont mes chaussettes que vous reniflez.
Jeff,
First lesson:
Si tes chaussettes sentent le roquefort, il FAUT les laver!! Et tes pieds également!!
If your socks smell roquefort cheese, you MUST wash them!! And your feet too!! :eek:
J :D |
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| Il n'est pas les pieds, c'est le tarpon avewc qui il couche.... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | baise-moi
EDIT: somehow that wasn't as funny as I thought it might be. |
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That might work better. |
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| I think we've already established that al and miles don't speak French. |
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Joined: March 2004 Posts: 1388
Location: Paris/France | Schroeder,
I'm sure you can find better words in french!!!
My language is rich and full of very nice expressions like in English.
There's not only "rude words"!! :rolleyes:
Perhaps can you have some imagination???
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by schroeder:
M'encul? That works much better. Bien cuit.
....we're like the Navajo code talkers in WWII |
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| paulmac.
I apologise.
I LOVE your website.
M'excuse. :rolleyes: |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Jerômé,
M'excuse aussi. I should not œuf Schroeder on. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by paulmac:
Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Je n'pas de Roquefort, je pense que ce sont mes chaussettes que vous reniflez.
Jeff,
First lesson:
Si tes chaussettes sentent le roquefort, il FAUT les laver!! Et tes pieds également!!
If your socks smell roquefort cheese, you MUST wash them!! And your feet too!! :eek:
J :D Is that why women fall at my feet? Passing out? |
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Location: Paris/France | Hi,
I'd like to introduce to you ChetDadi.
His name is Guy and he's one of my friend.
He don't speak English very well (worse than me...) and he's using a translation software.
I've told him today to change for another one. As you can read above, his translator is surely not the best on the market!!! :D
It seems to be more "Frenglish" than English.
Guy is a great guitar player and he was a good friend of the late Marcel Dadi.
He own a very nice Gretsch Country Gentleman "Chet Atkins" and a brand new 6778-LX since 2 month.
He stopped to work some years ago (because of a serious disease) but before he worked as a furrier.
He was doing very nice guitar cushions in rabbit fur. He has done one cushions for Chet (a Gretsch) and one for Marcel (an Adamas of course).
I post a pic to show you his work:
It's not common isn't it??
Ok, now you know who is ChetDadi.
Another Ovation fan from France and a very nice friend.
Welcome Guy / Bienvenue Guy
And please, choose another translator...(joke) :D
Jérôme :) |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Maybe he could use Jeff as his translator :eek: |
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Location: Midland, MI | Quand il est mort le poèt.
Quand il est mort le poèt.
Tous ses amis, Tous ses amis.
Tous ses amis pleuraient.
Et c'est pour ça que l'on trouve.
Et c'est pour ça que l'on trouve.
Dans ce grand champ, Dans ce grand champ.
Dans ce grand champ de bleuets.
(sorry, those are the only verses I can remember. My friend from Switzerland told me it was a French drinking song. And that's how I learned it.) |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Right(english), or as it should be mo fittin, bien(francais).
Now as to electrics or acoustics, maybe look at it from the construction side. While all guitars will have their own voice and all that, anybody can buy a neck and body from Warmoth, and the hardware too, spray a little StewMac lacquer and put the thing together and have it sound and work great. (OK, maybe it's not that easy but it's pretty easy) Getting equal results from an acoustic parts kit, or even making your own stuff is no where near as easy.
My point is to the question of which is more interesting, I would lean to the acoustics for the respect of what it takes to make them. Time to go play my koa tele now..... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | But, I am not the flowers. |
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