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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | I receive flyers and catalogs from Musicians friend, and Sam Ash, like the rest of us, each week. Usually, they upfront cheaper guitars, to get your attention. What bugs me is that, they show a Celebrity Ovation, with Ibanez, and Fender acoustics, all imports of course, and show a LX model or American made O on the same page. The USA O's are 3 times the price, as we know, but how does the new customer know the differance. I don't mean to belittle the Celebrity owners (actually you should have seen Kim, and Temp, do a Pete Townsend or that poor Celeb last week) but the name on the head stock is doesn't represent the difference of guitars. My suggestion is: I think the Mothership should call the line" Celebrity by Ovation" It is simply a truer marketing name. |
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| Squier by Fender
Epiphone by Gibson
Toyotas are good cars, but they don't put the badge on a Lexus.
Tommy's right.
Action please. |
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Location: closely held secret | They certainly don't market Applause as Ovation the way they do Celebs. And I don't blame them.
I just got the newest flyer from GC and they have LX's on the same page as 2k to 3k Taylors and Gibsons. Not that the LX's aren't great, but why the heck don't they put up an Adamas or at least an 05C??? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | And then there's the thought that a Lexus is just a Toyota with a fancy badge on it.... |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | cwk2 is right.......
The reason that GC doesn't show 2005-ESs and Adamii with the 2K Taylors is that most GCs DON'T CARRY the more expensive Ovations....they certainly aren't going to spotlight something they don't carry!!!!
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | My CC11 says 'Celebrity' on the headstock and 'Celebrity by Ovation' on the label.
I didn't realize the practice had changed. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Old Applause Owner:
cwk2 is right.......
The reason that GC doesn't show 2005-ESs and Adamii with the 2K Taylors is that most GCs DON'T CARRY the more expensive Ovations....they certainly aren't going to spotlight something they don't carry!!!!
Roger That's my point - they OUGHT to! Our local GC has had 2 05C's. They have gone through several Legend & Elite LX's (I know - I bought 2). |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Does anyone know if Kaman has a product line policy? By that I mean, is a retailer like GC required to order a certain mix of guitars or can they just pick and choose (order only cc057, if that's all they want to stock).
The reason I ask is that I used to work in a camera store and I know when we would order it was like a chinese menu. Products were divided into 4-5 categories and we had to order a certain minimum from each category. Thats how the manufacturer assured that his line was well represented. So we would order 1 from each category and then 100 from the single category that we knew would sell.
Related story, I went to buy a new lawnmower. My previous one was an Areins and I wanted to buy another of the same. But the local shop said he dropped the line because they had enforced a new policy where the retailer had to stock and sell the entire product line. The snowblowers don't sell very well here in Arizona.
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Location: closely held secret | It snowed once for about 10 minutes when I lived in Phoenix (circa 1974).
Traffic stopped. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | A LAWN!!...IN PHOENIX!!
Shame on you.
(born there and served my first jail sentence there, so...I'm kinda protective)
(just kidding about the first jail sentence...i think it was the forth) |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Arizonans can water their lawns but only by washing their Hummers at the same time.
Good time to scrub the walkers and the "Lil Rascal" too! |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
(born there and served my first jail sentence there, so...I'm kinda protective)
(just kidding about the first jail sentence...i think it was the forth) My one and only was there.
Maricopa County Jail? What a lovely place to spend a night or two... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ahhhh, Maricopa County...
Born at St. Josephs.
Interred at County lock-up...
Takes me back. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | For the record:
1. Yes I do have a small lawn and I pay outrageous water bills
2. I'd rather waste water on a lawn than give it to California
3. I don't have a Hummer, but I do have a gas guzzler (X5 4.4i)
4. I've never been in jail ... yet
5. I don't own a Rascal ... yet |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I've got a few pointers to remedy #4.
(Kinda funny that your squeezing Moody for water, too) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Aren't we all squeezing Moody for something? |
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Location: closely held secret | pass. |
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Location: Chapin SC | EEEWWWWW! |
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Location: East Tennessee | Somehow I believe there is a song in the making.
One of those blues type songs. |
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