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Joined: April 2002 Posts: 202
Location: Orlando, Florida | Hey guys...
I think this is a 1537. Is it?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7337189123&categ...
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 1374
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fugot, tony and yourself already in could be a lot more. gonna get interesting.
God Bless,
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Joined: April 2002 Posts: 202
Location: Orlando, Florida | Guys...
I kinda pushed the price up this soon. But fugot had the opener. Some advice would be to READ this guy's feedback before bidding (especially concerning guitars!).
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 640
Location: boulder | jyam4, good feedback detective work. I usually do that also. This time I was just searching and came on this 1537 with in 10 minutes of it being listed. I have a moderate bid and won't really pursue if it gets near/above what stephent28 paid for his last 1537. It looks nice though.
As a side note. I picked up my 1537 from the ovation factory after it went in for a little TLC. (neck reset, clean out elmers glue from under fretboard, clean up residual elmers glue on wood top) Best 2 bills I ever spent. My 1537 looks almost brand new. plays like brand new. I'm loving it so much, it made me bid on the ebay 1537. But there is a Hamer with my name on it and c'est la vie. good luck to 1537 bidders...peace mike |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 640
Location: boulder | does anyone see fret makers? I didn't. mike |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | The black 1537 I got turned out to be pretty much in mint condition with an incredible figured fretboard that has to be seen to be believed.
One of the best buys I have gotten in quite a while! :D |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Fugot,
I looked again and your right....can't see in fret markers. Something doesn't look quite right to me...just can't put my finger on it.
I don't understand why he did not list the model number in his ad. He is certainly knowledgable enough since he has sold a ton of guitars for decent money. |
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Joined: June 2005 Posts: 231
Location: N.J. | Hey Fugot,
While were on the subject on biddin' on the 'bay, how did you make out with that Angel Step 6 string a while back? That sure looked perty but I saw you bid on it so I stayed away. Something about THAT particular one gave me major GAS ;) ! |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Hey Sleepy, I'm pretty sure he got it...but if that gave you GAS, here's another one for you :D
Angel Step on ebay |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | at this point, any bidding is just marking it...will be interesting to find out more.
got Paul B's Custom Elite coming in and haven't even started to clean up the DB shiny bowl.
sooooooooooooo, with one 1537, doubt if I will be there at the end. |
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Joined: June 2005 Posts: 231
Location: N.J. | Thanks Steve.Not 5 mins after I posted in here I switched over to the For Sale forum and saw it ;) . Since I have not had the pleasure of seeing one of these in person,the top in this auction: Angel Step 1 is quite different than the top in this auction: Angel Step 2 .Is it just a case of pro lighting in the first auction or did they really differ that much from one to the other? They both are sweet regardless,
and now all I have to do is convince the wife of that too! :p |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 640
Location: boulder | sleepy eyes,
I can not say enough about the angel step walnut elite. to me, (and remember I'm educated beyond my intelligence), it is one of the best ovations I have played!!! the sound jumps out at you. it's crisp and bright, but full as well. similar in a way to the 1537, but does not sound as wood toned as the 1537. It is comfortable to play since it is a shallow bowl. It has a slightly V neck shape, say a little more V shaped then the 2005 collectors. but the neck is comfortable to play for hours. the top also looks 3-d from different angles. laminate or not, this particular guitar rocks. Seems like all of mikes (MSB here, mbros on ebay) guitars are sweet.
last two things, my friend who is picky,picky, picky... played it at my house, and wouldn't let it go. it's now at her house (friends :rolleyes: ). So sleepy , thankyou for letting me win such a cool guitar at a decent price. I hope your good karma comes back to you in multiples. peace mike |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Sleepy, they all seem to look a little different. Check out the 12 string I just recently sold (pic is in the for sale section or look in my OFC gallery under 12-string acoustics) The one on ebay now seems to be a darker more somber look than mine or the one Fugot grabbed.
I agree with Fugot. It is a great sounding and playing guitar. I parted with my 12 string only because it was necessary to fullfil my desire for a 1688 Adamas I twelve string. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Dudes, get the serial number on this "1537"
Ask about the binding to see if it is 5 ply wooden.
Could be that this one has had the fretboard/neck replaced or...
could be it never had fret markers...which could mean....
EDIT: Ask, if it has a roundhead screw at the waist and Stereo jack. |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307
Location: Tennessee | Looks like a rosewood fretboard, not walnut with maple inlays that's standard on the 1537. Everything else looks to be 1537, except for the tele style knob in place of the woodie. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Somebody must have asked, because he added the model 1537 and the serial number. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 1071
Location: Carle Place, NY | I agree that something is not quite right with this guitar. All 1537's have the triangle maple fret markers. Perhaps a new neck was put on this guitar. Also the repaired crack is very big. |
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Joined: April 2002 Posts: 202
Location: Orlando, Florida | Looking at this guy's guitar feedback is not too encouraging, either. I still bet that there will be alot of last minute action on this one, if the current bid stays where it's at. I got to admit, I might be one of them. Still, some self control on my part would be nice.
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | Why doesn't somebody ask the seller for better pics of the neck and if there are no markers, what's going on? |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Did tht just now...I'll post any additional info.
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | It does have the walnut fretboard and wooden inlays. He says he has more pics but he hasn't sent any as of yet.
Wayne |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 640
Location: boulder | He emailed me back also. He says it is the original neck and it does ahve fret inlays. I didn't ask if finish crack was visible or if the line if the picture was a wood coloration thin. Top looks similarly well golden aged as my other 1537 looks. (and similar to other 1537 pics I have seen).
If I win it for less then my "clever" bid, I am happy for me. If somone else wins it I am happy for them. My 1537 just back from factory really cleaned up nicely and looks the bomb. peace mike |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 640
Location: boulder | Ok I looked again, and in my unexpert opinion. the pic show two bookmatched wood colorations running north-south. I don't think the line on the treble side is the repaired finish crack. peace |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | The seller added more pics to the auction and that is one nasty crack but I suppose it can be fixed.
Wayne |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Mike,
If you end up with it and want to get rid of it, let me know in a few months. I'm still under my wife's moratorium and we just got the bill for my daughter's first semester at University of Portland, so things are pretty grim around the house. Of course, in the fall it will be something else. |
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Joined: April 2002 Posts: 202
Location: Orlando, Florida | Is it me, or does it look like someone might have "french polished" this guitar, or did something similar. Doesn't the shine look a little weird?
Joe |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 1071
Location: Carle Place, NY | The new pics show this to be a 1537. Figure in to the final price about $250 and a trip to the factory, and you'll have a very nice guitar. That's a big crack, but is does follow the dark line in the grain that also shows in the bookmatching on the other side of the top.
It might be a good idea to ask about the action. My 1537 is getting close to needing a neck re-set. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15664
Location: SoCal | A neck re-set on a 1537? With a K bar? Hard to believe. Mine is spot on perfect, never been adjusted (at least in the last 12 years that I've owned it) and lives with medium gauge strings.
If the guitar in this auction can be bought for under $400, the factory could do good things with it. While it's there, you might consider having the new 2 knob electronics installed (built for the reissue Adamii). |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | here here. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 640
Location: boulder | just an update. If, If, and If I win this 1537 I will probably bring it up to the factory to repair that crack, possibly by having the whole top refinished. (and having fretboard cleaned as well) Then I will put it up for sale here at my cost of buying and fixing. I have one, one is more then enough for me.
of course I have to win it first :eek: peace, mike |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1026
Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az. | ...or, you could count your blessings, leave this one in it's broken down state for someone who cannot afford a pristine 1537, but could possibly own a beat up 1537 none the less. Spread the wealth so to speak. Just a thought.
I'm not talking about myself here either, I bid...and I'm already out of the picture.
Good luck either way bro!
Norse(doesn't do much good to put your best foot forward, when it's only a bloody stump)man1 |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | Seems like a lot of work to just pass the costs on...from what I see, nothing necessary to fix that affects the playability.
The finish crack is supposed to be sealed. In fact, someone could possibly mitigate (sand & buff) it if it bothered them.
Don't want you to lose the opportunity with the auction but maybe someone here should consider getting a great "player" for a fantastic price.
I have held off pushing it up because I would basically be adopting it for a future home. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 1071
Location: Carle Place, NY | Paul:
My 1537 has no shims left under the saddle. The action varies with the seasons: 3/32" in the summer (perfect) and 4/32" in the winter (tad high). Truss rod adjustments will lower the action in the winter, but then the guitar frets out at about the 11th fret. Also the floating fingerboard extension touches the guitar's top in the summer and causes some buzzing (I keep a thin guitar pick there in the summer). I love the sound of the guitar, but my 1619 is less tempermental and is easier to play. I intend on bringing the guitar to the factory at the next OFC Tour and leaving it for an evaluation and estimate. The fretboard and frets need some reconditioning also.
Fugot:
That's the nicest thing that I've read at this site in a long time. I really hope you win the auction. Note to other OFC members-don't bid against Fugot. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Mike,
I'd buy it, but the timing is terrible. We have cost overruns on a remodel project and a $9000 bill for college this week. If it was a couple weeks later, I might be able to sneak it past my wife. If you get it, let's talk before you send it off to the factory. I might be happy for awhile with a cracked 1537. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | I messaged Mike to see how serious he was, I might jump into this. Haven't heard back from him yet. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | Problem with an auction like this is bidders back off and the one bidding gets outbid by $5.00. Then, the guys who backed off but would have bid more lose out.
What is this guitar worth? $300, $400, $500, $600?? I believe the minimum that it will go for is $450-500 or more. Remember, this isn't a Celeb...a good condition guitar could go for $1,100-1,200.
So, if you want it, determine what it is worth to you and bid. Let the highest bid win. Only fair with the bidders and for the seller. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | That's what I was thinking, Tony.
I'm not asking anyone to back off, it should go to whoever wants it for what it's worth to them.
EDIT:
On the other hand, if I know Mike wants it, and is willing/able to go higher than I, why drive the price up needlessly? |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | I think if everyone on this board would just limit him or herself to one 1537, the price would stay down where I could eventually get one. |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Well Mark, with over 3000 members somebody is gonna get left out! :eek: or have to wait a very long time.
I like your earlier thoughts...grab it cracked and repair it when the time is more politically correct (graduation day - maybe????) |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | just remember that color in the pictures are distorted...couldn't see that there were fret markers.
most likely, the pictures make the crack look worse than it is. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 640
Location: boulder | Hey all,
first let me apologize to any and all I might have offended by bidding on this 1537. I bid what i think is a fair and moderate amount for this guitar within 10 minutes of it being listed (just luck). I bid what I did because I thought that it was a fair amount for this guitar. I was not trying to drive price up by any means. My lesson learned is not to be so impulsive.
secondly, if I win listing (and that is still a big if) I will offer it here to OFC'ers and give the choice of as is or with repair cost. I do not mind driving it up to factory to let them look at it and have them give me an estimate to what they think needs to be done (if anything).
Thirdly, Bid what you want. Bid what you think it is worth. Bid what you can. I am not asking anyone to not bid. I bid what I think it is worth to me. These pups are not cheap anymore and if this sells for less then $537 I would be surprised. Really surprised.
So there you have it. peace mike |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | May the best bid win! |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | Mike, no apology for being willing to adopt and give a little TLC. That is to be commended. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Stephen,
I've come to realize in the 6 months since I've been on this board that there is a long list of I wants, most of which you have. Maybe if I'd have been buying Ovations instead of Porsches, I'd have the collection built up. Once I have a 1537, I'll move to the next one on the list.
I also enjoy the shopping part of this. It's amazing that my wife doesn't understand that. I would really worry if I thought there wouldn't be another one out there, but the last few months have indicated otherwise. Meanwhile, I'm enjoying my other purchases. I'll just wait until the time is right. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1673
Location: SoCal | Mark, When the time is right for you, tell me. I still have the 1537 from eBay that UPS played lost-and-found with on its way down from Canada. The guy started the bidding at $850 and no one from the OFC went after it. I thought it would be a great guitar for a trade down the road. What color Porsches do you have? |
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Joined: April 2002 Posts: 202
Location: Orlando, Florida | $430.77
Congratulations, fugot!
Joe |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Congrats, Mike. I'll quit whining about my financial situation. It is trivial compared to several others. I just got one kid through college on a full ride from the State of Idaho. The second had to go to private school. A $14,000 per year scholarship sounds great until you get the bill for the other $18,000.
Sympathy aside, Noah, I only have one Porsche. I know everyone's heart bleeds for me. An Arena Red Boxster. It's kind of burgundy. I had 2 guards red 911's before. I wish I could have kept the 84. Great car and classic style.
Unlike most, I drive them every day. Put snow tires on in the winter and find them very functional. Built to play with, not collect.
If I sold it or just gave up golf, I could probably afford all the Ovations I wanted and would have to graduate to Adamas. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 640
Location: boulder | Thanks Joe and mark. I still can't believe it sold for so cheap. (was it the cracked top or this thread)when it arrives I will update everyone on it's condition.
believe me, I have learned my lesson about being impulsive.
:o peace mike |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307
Location: Tennessee | Welcome to the 1537 club Mike. I was lucky enough to find one from an OFC member about a year ago and you will not be disappointed.
Hang in there Mark, yours will come around at the right time. My daily driver for the past 10 years has been a 1987 944, which is just about the most drivable Porsche I've owned. The one I wish I held on to was my red 1961 356B Super ... but the vintage car craze in the early 90's drove the price to the point where I couldn't say no to an outrageous offer. Also had a 78 911SC; nice but certainly not the pinnacle of Porsche quality. Am currently on the lookout for a 993 C4S as I just got done paying for three progeny through college. Two more to go, but I figure the only way is to grab the car before those two start the money drain. Same goes for guitars. ;) |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Geeeeee,
Mark and Stoney crying about finances while driving their Porsches everyday.
Mark, you have finally beat me down. Any 2 of my "O"s on your short list for the Porsche. I can guarantee a couple of great playing guitars without the constant maintenance cost :D |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1026
Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az. | Congrats Mike!
As far as your previous post...apologize for what?! This is one of the things that makes America great... the freedom to pursue life, ovations, and happiness (or something like that). Hey, more power to you! Looks like a great buy!
Norse(only a little green with envy...but knowing my day will come!)man1 |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Congrats, Mike! A great guitar at a great price - you can't beat that! |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12754
Location: Boise, Idaho | Stonebobbo,
I had a second Porsche in the garage for about a year. I found my nephew a nice 86 944 with only 70,000 miles. He was too much of a motor head and sold it for a couple thousand more than he paid for it. Now he has an old Mazda pickup and a couple scooters. I agree about the SCs. I had a 79, but at least I got my money back on a trade for the 84 and it was almost perfect.
We have a good friend with a 993 C4S. Great car. Oops, this is the Ovation forum. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13987
Location: Upper Left USA | I know a blonde that could paint your Porsche for you! |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Yep. Youse in da wrong place . |
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