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Location: Tampa, FL | I'm thinking of putting a bid on this
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Now I realize that the 70's were the period of the dread VT bracing pattern that Moody is so enamoured of. I'm wondering if, without serial number infomation, there is any way to guess, with some degree of certainty, what year this O was made? Or is this simply a caveat emptor situation?
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Location: NJ | s'now Moody's becoming the BracingPolice as well . . . |
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Location: Tampa, FL | He's been known to have an opinion on occasion. I appreciate his perspective. And, if your looking for a best guess with minimal information, who better to seek an opinion from? |
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Location: SoCal | ChatMan -- Balladeers thru the 70's have always had the original Ovation X bracing pattern They are great sounding guitars. I own a '72 Balladeer and enjoy it very much. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I will toss in a WAG of 74-76 based on how close it looks to my 1112-1 in configuration and such. That is a handsome hunk of fir on top!
Pick your highest and bid. Let the market see if it should be yours. Then send it to the factory for a neck refinish.
For bracing - send the Seller a pic taken from Dave's www.Ovationgallery.com with the bracing patterns and see what he has.
Can I be the Pickguard Nit-picker? |
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Location: Tampa, FL | Thanks Paul.
So with squinty little beady eyes the lurker goes back to what he does best...
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Location: closely held secret | I've been watchin this one, too.
When & why did they stop putting 5 piece necks on Balladeers? When they came out with Legends? |
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| I thought he said "sluts". Damn, I gotta get new glasses. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Waskel,
I was thinking they stopped the 5 piece neck in about 1982, when they had the model of the Balladeer, maybe a 1561, that they only had for one year. There was a short thread on that model that I started awhile ago because I was looking at one at GC and couldn't find the model on the Ovation website. It's still at GC and they are still asking $600 for a well used model. I haven't seen the guy I talked to about it to tell him I got a Custom Balladeer for $225. |
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| Waskel, I was wondering the same thing...Every O' I have ever owned had a 5-piece neck, and when I started seeing the USA Balladeers with the 2-piece necks I thought it was strange, even kind of 'low end' looking as far as quality was concerned...but, different strokes I guess...
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | So....how do you think I feel with an Adamas Melissa Etheridge 12-string with a TWO-PIECE NECK???? That was a BIG no-no, IMHO. I can't believe they did that....it's still a nice guitar, but the 2-piece neck is really cheap-looking for that level of guitar. Especially when the regular CVT 12-string GETS the 5-piece neck.
Back to the topic....this Balladeer looks like a 1974-1976, like Mike said. The deep color of the top bears that out, too, it is a touch deeper than my 1978-vintage 1617.
My 1617 presumably has the dreaded VT bracing, but I am fine with it. I played a newer 1677 today in a used instrument shop that I wouldn't trade it for.
I'd get ready to go to $200 or above to get it....you're bidding against a newbie....he may go HIGH to get it....a common newbie trait.
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| "So....how do you think I feel with an Adamas Melissa Etheridge 12-string with a TWO-PIECE NECK???? "
As you yankees would say - I'd be pissed. Difficult to believe that such a high-end model didn't get the works - even my humble Country Artist has the full 5. |
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Location: SoCal | All original Adamas I's have a two piece neck, made of walnut. Looks just fine to me. |
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| Gotta have the stripe...... |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | I just looked at a used ME 12-string on Elderly's site....didn't realize (till NOW) that the 2-piece neck is WALNUT(like Paul mentioned for the Adamas I).....it doesn't say that anywhere in the documentation for the guitar.
Of course, a 2-piece walnut neck is plenty strong.....and not a weaker neck than the 5-piece. I'd still prefer the 5-piece for appearance, though, myself.
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Aright you sleuths out there